Shows definitely do that kind of thing when hyping up a specific love story, to kind of misguidedly highlight how special it is that a seemingly straight person’s SO in love with this one person who HAPPENS to be a woman. And in real life, when somebody’s first going through that, they may think about that person as an exception, but I think real people are more likely to think about what it means for them, as opposed to the straight writers writing a fictional character. But I still don’t see the point of her coming out as only Katesexual, if they’re going to make her go through all of this.
To be fair, many of us have gone through a “namesexual” phase before accepting we are gay (lesbian, bisexual, etc…). So I see Rana still being in that denial/confused/questioning phase cause at the end of the day Kate in fact is the only woman (dare I say person?) she has these feelings for. Hopefully we will get to see her explore her sexuality more and maybe settle on a label.
Shows definitely do that kind of thing when hyping up a specific love story, to kind of misguidedly highlight how special it is that a seemingly straight person’s SO in love with this one person who HAPPENS to be a woman. And in real life, when somebody’s first going through that, they may think about that person as an exception, but I think real people are more likely to think about what it means for them, as opposed to the straight writers writing a fictional character. But I still don’t see the point of her coming out as only Katesexual, if they’re going to make her go through all of this.
Totally agree with your post about the failings of Corrie tonight. Kate was very OOC in order to isolate Rana. I was hoping that Rana would be angry Kate told Zeedan and Kate might be hurt that Rana was ashamed to admit she’d been with her. Explaining their upcoming estrangement.What did you make of Rana painting Kate as an exception in terms of her sexuality? Rana still in denial or are they really going for Katesexual? I do think think the story is more than salvageable with a good ep or two.
Oh, it’s for sure salvageable. It was just so unnecessary to be so OOC today when there were so many other reasons available to them. Like you said, Rana being mad at Kate for outing her could have been a great way to separate them. Neither would have come across as a bad guy or OOC. I’ve always loved that they both have always remained understandable AND sympathetic (not exactly the same thing). Their motivations were clear and they appealed to the audience, which, in a cheating storyline is difficult! A waste of a couple of eps that could have been great. Just like, tone down the anger and make it more conflicted sadness. They did it in the first ep! I need Debbie Oates back, please.
Huh, yeah, that bit was weird. A weird thing to highlight for the show in that moment. Are they saying that for Rana the character it’s gonna be Kate and then just men in the future? It feels like that’s a very weird thing to set in stone about a character literally going through a sexuality crisis through which she’s going to suffer so much. All for one woman? She should love free and be out and proud for being Katesexual? I took it as her saying that to Zee in the moment, possibly even believing it herself, but mostly to try to assure him it’d never happen again. I mean, even if Kate’s the only woman she’s ever going to love, she’s still bi. So I hope she’s able to claim that at some point.
Totally agree with your post about the failings of Corrie tonight. Kate was very OOC in order to isolate Rana. I was hoping that Rana would be angry Kate told Zeedan and Kate might be hurt that Rana was ashamed to admit she’d been with her. Explaining their upcoming estrangement.What did you make of Rana painting Kate as an exception in terms of her sexuality? Rana still in denial or are they really going for Katesexual? I do think think the story is more than salvageable with a good ep or two.
Oh, it’s for sure salvageable. It was just so unnecessary to be so OOC today when there were so many other reasons available to them. Like you said, Rana being mad at Kate for outing her could have been a great way to separate them. Neither would have come across as a bad guy or OOC. I’ve always loved that they both have always remained understandable AND sympathetic (not exactly the same thing). Their motivations were clear and they appealed to the audience, which, in a cheating storyline is difficult! A waste of a couple of eps that could have been great. Just like, tone down the anger and make it more conflicted sadness. They did it in the first ep! I need Debbie Oates back, please.
Huh, yeah, that bit was weird. A weird thing to highlight for the show in that moment. Are they saying that for Rana the character it’s gonna be Kate and then just men in the future? It feels like that’s a very weird thing to set in stone about a character literally going through a sexuality crisis through which she’s going to suffer so much. All for one woman? She should love free and be out and proud for being Katesexual? I took it as her saying that to Zee in the moment, possibly even believing it herself, but mostly to try to assure him it’d never happen again. I mean, even if Kate’s the only woman she’s ever going to love, she’s still bi. So I hope she’s able to claim that at some point.
Kate just outing rana left and right. She should know better. The writing for that and the upcoming mess is garbage
That was the least of my problems with today’s eps, tbh! It was set up to give her no choice. She didn’t want to and tried to not, hell, our Kate trying to deflect his suspicion and explain away the note so that the woman she’s in love with can stay in her marriage was an odd moment of adorable I completely forgot about until right now. I don’t blame her for the outing, circumstances forced it.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE. Well, my main complaints can really be narrowed down to three things: Kate’s attitude toward Rana (after she did out her!), the scene ending it as it did with no real acknowledgment by either of this massive shift in their circumstances that could finally let them be together or any other conversation, and then Kate and Aidan nonchalantly chatting.
And the thing is, I understand the outcome the show needed from the ep. They want Rana isolated so they can show how awful being in her position is. If Kate’s there, then that doesn’t happen. I came into the ep understanding this, that something would force them apart such that her parents’ gross ass offer and its result could be set into motion. But nothing literally did? And they didn’t just “grow apart”, the scene in the first ep today that was from the preview, where they caught each other’s eye at “soulmate” and where Kate’s crying because it physically hurts her to see Zee with Rana, like, that’s as deep as ever. And then after that she’s all angrily telling Rana that she should have been the one to tell Zee about her after Rana already confessed she was in love with someone else? The writing fell down so hard when it didn’t even need to do that much, given the enormity of the scenes it was working with.
I can make my own leaps of logic here and there. Even Rana’s comment on how how Kate shouldn’t have told him seemed out of place, considering what she’s been fighting for weeks to do. But fine, she’s still afraid of being outed and thinks Kate did it for some reason other than because Zee was going to get violent. And I can try to pretend Kate’s anger in return was at being the one who had to explain it was her, being grilled by him, the adrenaline at the surprise and intensity of it. But there are only so many leaps I can make! Did Kate really not feel any sympathy for Rana?
APPARENTLY NOT because then the worst of the three scenes happen, where Kate is just super chill grabbing a brewski with the bro. It negates so much of what we’re supposed to believe about her feelings, and as you know, Kate’s devotion toward Rana has always been one of my favorite things about this ship. The writing really failed in some respects there. I shouldn’t be forced to try to make things work, and some things even I, a things maker worker, couldn’t figure out. Carla as a distraction to pull Kate away was right there! She could have said she didn’t want to hurt Zee anymore, or that this was all too much to deal with, any one of many reasons.
But you knowww, it’s a soap. And while I’m mostly just glum about such a pivotal ep and so much screentime and major revelations being wasted like this, it is what it is. I knew that Zee’s character would get shafted in these eps, I didn’t also expect Kate’s to be as well. But like I said, OOCness to serve whatever purpose the plot requires, then back to the usual. I’m not holding this against Kate, it’s not the character’s fault the writers really put out a stinker. I suppose it speaks to something where they literally couldn’t find any in-character way to keep them separate.
Kate just outing rana left and right. She should know better. The writing for that and the upcoming mess is garbage
That was the least of my problems with today’s eps, tbh! It was set up to give her no choice. She didn’t want to and tried to not, hell, our Kate trying to deflect his suspicion and explain away the note so that the woman she’s in love with can stay in her marriage was an odd moment of adorable I completely forgot about until right now. I don’t blame her for the outing, circumstances forced it.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE. Well, my main complaints can really be narrowed down to three things: Kate’s attitude toward Rana (after she did out her!), the scene ending it as it did with no real acknowledgment by either of this massive shift in their circumstances that could finally let them be together or any other conversation, and then Kate and Aidan nonchalantly chatting.
And the thing is, I understand the outcome the show needed from the ep. They want Rana isolated so they can show how awful being in her position is. If Kate’s there, then that doesn’t happen. I came into the ep understanding this, that something would force them apart such that her parents’ gross ass offer and its result could be set into motion. But nothing literally did? And they didn’t just “grow apart”, the scene in the first ep today that was from the preview, where they caught each other’s eye at “soulmate” and where Kate’s crying because it physically hurts her to see Zee with Rana, like, that’s as deep as ever. And then after that she’s all angrily telling Rana that she should have been the one to tell Zee about her after Rana already confessed she was in love with someone else? The writing fell down so hard when it didn’t even need to do that much, given the enormity of the scenes it was working with.
I can make my own leaps of logic here and there. Even Rana’s comment on how how Kate shouldn’t have told him seemed out of place, considering what she’s been fighting for weeks to do. But fine, she’s still afraid of being outed and thinks Kate did it for some reason other than because Zee was going to get violent. And I can try to pretend Kate’s anger in return was at being the one who had to explain it was her, being grilled by him, the adrenaline at the surprise and intensity of it. But there are only so many leaps I can make! Did Kate really not feel any sympathy for Rana?
APPARENTLY NOT because then the worst of the three scenes happen, where Kate is just super chill grabbing a brewski with the bro. It negates so much of what we’re supposed to believe about her feelings, and as you know, Kate’s devotion toward Rana has always been one of my favorite things about this ship. The writing really failed in some respects there. I shouldn’t be forced to try to make things work, and some things even I, a things maker worker, couldn’t figure out. Carla as a distraction to pull Kate away was right there! She could have said she didn’t want to hurt Zee anymore, or that this was all too much to deal with, any one of many reasons.
But you knowww, it’s a soap. And while I’m mostly just glum about such a pivotal ep and so much screentime and major revelations being wasted like this, it is what it is. I knew that Zee’s character would get shafted in these eps, I didn’t also expect Kate’s to be as well. But like I said, OOCness to serve whatever purpose the plot requires, then back to the usual. I’m not holding this against Kate, it’s not the character’s fault the writers really put out a stinker. I suppose it speaks to something where they literally couldn’t find any in-character way to keep them separate.
I hope corrie go with some kind of self harm story with Rana. So many people just don’t get how hard it is to accept your sexuality especially if you know if your family will leave and with the whole her being treated as a business transaction thing I think it seems likely that they might. I hope they do because it would help my mum understand that it’s not just a matter of picking one person. It’s picking between your family and everything you know and the woman you love and that its not easy.
I gotta say, anon, heh, that “hope” with the rest of that sentence? Is a bit jarring. No judgment on you, obviously, I get where you’re coming from.
I’m of two minds about it. I’ve already watched all this on TRMD with Jade, including the suicide attempt. And if I’m honest, I don’t think it did much there? That could be down to the execution, it being a hurried telenovela kind of plot but it covered the main things, family treating her badly, her feeling she had no escape, and yet it barely affected her family past a few eps, let alone the audience. And omg, I just remembered, they did the same thing to Paul, her also gay brother, near the end of the series. And again, no real effect. I suppose it comes down to the audience as well, how receptive they are to something like this? I think it was agreed that it probably came a few years too early for the Philippines. While it might be the right time for Corrie’s viewers right now, especially if they take care to draw it out.
Representation is important for the people it represents and the people who should see others normalized. I agree with that completely. Two different audiences, right? I think both should be taken into account. Is showing the consequences of this to the straight people and the non-Muslims who could learn something worth the gay Muslims’ horror watching this play out? As a gay Muslim, I’m not particularly enthused by seeing a lot of my own suffering up there. However, I am just one gay Muslim, I don’t represent all of us, and I don’t have anybody watching Corrie. I suspect if my mom were watching, I’d be able to look for her reactions and that would bring a new dimension to things.
If it’s a matter of how instructive it is, I think it could be very valuable, especially if not sensationalized. I just hope they strike the proper balance between needed rep and Making Gays Suffer to Teach Straights a Lesson.
I hope corrie go with some kind of self harm story with Rana. So many people just don’t get how hard it is to accept your sexuality especially if you know if your family will leave and with the whole her being treated as a business transaction thing I think it seems likely that they might. I hope they do because it would help my mum understand that it’s not just a matter of picking one person. It’s picking between your family and everything you know and the woman you love and that its not easy.
I gotta say, anon, heh, that “hope” with the rest of that sentence? Is a bit jarring. No judgment on you, obviously, I get where you’re coming from.
I’m of two minds about it. I’ve already watched all this on TRMD with Jade, including the suicide attempt. And if I’m honest, I don’t think it did much there? That could be down to the execution, it being a hurried telenovela kind of plot but it covered the main things, family treating her badly, her feeling she had no escape, and yet it barely affected her family past a few eps, let alone the audience. And omg, I just remembered, they did the same thing to Paul, her also gay brother, near the end of the series. And again, no real effect. I suppose it comes down to the audience as well, how receptive they are to something like this? I think it was agreed that it probably came a few years too early for the Philippines. While it might be the right time for Corrie’s viewers right now, especially if they take care to draw it out.
Representation is important for the people it represents and the people who should see others normalized. I agree with that completely. Two different audiences, right? I think both should be taken into account. Is showing the consequences of this to the straight people and the non-Muslims who could learn something worth the gay Muslims’ horror watching this play out? As a gay Muslim, I’m not particularly enthused by seeing a lot of my own suffering up there. However, I am just one gay Muslim, I don’t represent all of us, and I don’t have anybody watching Corrie. I suspect if my mom were watching, I’d be able to look for her reactions and that would bring a new dimension to things.
If it’s a matter of how instructive it is, I think it could be very valuable, especially if not sensationalized. I just hope they strike the proper balance between needed rep and Making Gays Suffer to Teach Straights a Lesson.
I hope, and I’m being optimistic here, that Kate founds out about the Habeebs offering Zee money fairly soon. I agree with your tags with Rana in the Rovers looking like she’s spiralling into a guilt-ridden depression and it makes me feel sad and anxious.
Me too! Honestly, anon, I did not expect it to hit me as hard as it did. She’s so alone? And I don’t even have really well written story and angst like on the Jan 8th ep to console myself with, I just didn’t get where Kate was coming from. Or I mean, I can, but I have to make more effort to get it, instead of it being so clear. Why was she so angry when she knew Rana couldn’t leave Zee right after Luke’s death?
But I digress. I hope that things become clear soon too, anon, but with the inclusion of Sophie and the telegraphing for even more depressed Rana and the spoilers we already have, I don’t think we’re going to have any letup any time soon. I think this is just the start of a long decline . And it’s such a specific thing she’s going through! Continuing to choose your family over coming out and becoming depressed as it all settles in. And us watching and knowing that some of us have made that exact decision and are living the consequences that we can see play out so painfully.
I hope, and I’m being optimistic here, that Kate founds out about the Habeebs offering Zee money fairly soon. I agree with your tags with Rana in the Rovers looking like she’s spiralling into a guilt-ridden depression and it makes me feel sad and anxious.
Me too! Honestly, anon, I did not expect it to hit me as hard as it did. She’s so alone? And I don’t even have really well written story and angst like on the Jan 8th ep to console myself with, I just didn’t get where Kate was coming from. Or I mean, I can, but I have to make more effort to get it, instead of it being so clear. Why was she so angry when she knew Rana couldn’t leave Zee right after Luke’s death?
But I digress. I hope that things become clear soon too, anon, but with the inclusion of Sophie and the telegraphing for even more depressed Rana and the spoilers we already have, I don’t think we’re going to have any letup any time soon. I think this is just the start of a long decline . And it’s such a specific thing she’s going through! Continuing to choose your family over coming out and becoming depressed as it all settles in. And us watching and knowing that some of us have made that exact decision and are living the consequences that we can see play out so painfully.