The glee club winners and the measure of their success, from left to right, top to bottom.
RIB should perhaps be more careful about who they think is flunk-worthy. Santana’s line in the season 2 finale about winning Nationals being their “only chance to feel good about [them]selves” also makes no sense, knowing that the Cheerios were among the first to win a significant title.
Notes for positioning and placement:
- While Lauren’s wrestling wins have not been explicitly stated, they are enough to assure her college acceptances. She could have none or several titles so a compromise was reached whereby she is given just one but placed at the head of her tier.
- Like Lauren, Rachel’s overall success is unknown, but despite having been in many other clubs, her wish to “be[ing] a part of something great” implies no great achievements.
- This ignores childhood pageants and contests outside school, most notably in Lauren and Rachel’s cases, but possibly for the others.
- This also ignores talents for which nothing has been won, including Mike and Brittany’s dancing, Quinn’s good grades, or Kurt’s eye for fashion.
- Everyone who was on the roster for the final game is awarded the football win, including Tina, Lauren, Rachel, and Mercedes but NOT Kurt.
- The football win counts more for the boys because of their having been on the team longer. Unfortunately, Artie’s handicap does hurt his potential future in football, thus placing him below Mike.
- Cheerios wins are more weighted because of the very solid position of the squad, except for Kurt who doesn’t seem to have any further interest in cheerleading. College scouts would have kept an eye on Sue Sylvester’s very successful team from early on. Head Cheerio as a freshman guarantees Quinn attention.
- Being the leader, as quarterback, captain, head Cheerio, etc., counts for more, which is why Finn is ahead of Sam and Puck.
- Sam has been touted as very athletic and fit so the football win places him higher than Puck, especially with the latter’s delinquency record.
It is fitting that the Three Divas place last in their groups, with their future riding on the success of the glee club. They are actually well situated in terms of talent and self-belief and should they win at Nationals next year, the win will count the most for them.
[Edited: Fixed Kurt to have two victories instead of one. Thanks to rznzn and shiphassailed for spotting the mistake.]
The glee club winners and the measure of their success, from left to right, top to bottom.
RIB should perhaps be more careful about who they think is flunk-worthy. Santana’s line in the season 2 finale about winning Nationals being their “only chance to feel good about [them]selves” also makes no sense, knowing that the Cheerios were among the first to win a significant title.
Notes for positioning and placement:
- While Lauren’s wrestling wins have not been explicitly stated, they are enough to assure her college acceptances. She could have none or several titles so a compromise was reached whereby she is given just one but placed at the head of her tier.
- Like Lauren, Rachel’s overall success is unknown, but despite having been in many other clubs, her wish to “be[ing] a part of something great” implies no great achievements.
- This ignores childhood pageants and contests outside school, most notably in Lauren and Rachel’s cases, but possibly for the others.
- This also ignores talents for which nothing has been won, including Mike and Brittany’s dancing, Quinn’s good grades, or Kurt’s eye for fashion.
- Everyone who was on the roster for the final game is awarded the football win, including Tina, Lauren, Rachel, and Mercedes but NOT Kurt.
- The football win counts more for the boys because of their having been on the team longer. Unfortunately, Artie’s handicap does hurt his potential future in football, thus placing him below Mike.
- Cheerios wins are more weighted because of the very solid position of the squad, except for Kurt who doesn’t seem to have any further interest in cheerleading. College scouts would have kept an eye on Sue Sylvester’s very successful team from early on. Head Cheerio as a freshman guarantees Quinn attention.
- Being the leader, as quarterback, captain, head Cheerio, etc., counts for more, which is why Finn is ahead of Sam and Puck.
- Sam has been touted as very athletic and fit so the football win places him higher than Puck, especially with the latter’s delinquency record.
It is fitting that the Three Divas place last in their groups, with their future riding on the success of the glee club. They are actually well situated in terms of talent and self-belief and should they win at Nationals next year, the win will count the most for them.
[Edited: Fixed Kurt to have two victories instead of one. Thanks to rznzn and shiphassailed for spotting the mistake.]
There’s been an odd shift in my perception of Faberry. I now want to read fics more from Quinn’s POV than Rachel’s and it used to be the opposite.
When I follow a romantic storyline, whether it’s in a plain romance or a subplot in a Western or a mystery or a thriller, there’s just an inherent sympathy with the main character. Because there needs to be some kind of obstacle for drama, they’re portrayed as underdogs, people who the gorgeous, funny romantic interest wouldn’t necessarily go for (except they obviously always do).
And it’s interesting how that’s gone from season 1’s overly verbose, “ugly” loser getting the beautiful, popular cheerleader to what’s now the status after season 2: deeply unhappy, lost Quinn getting pretty, talented Rachel. It comes from having Rachel see Quinn have at least two mini-breakdowns (and missing a third in NYC) in season 2 alone and ending the season with Finn having picked her over Rachel. Quinn is now in the position of having to fight uphill.
It would be a more interesting turnaround if it wasn’t so sad and heavy-handed.
There’s been an odd shift in my perception of Faberry. I now want to read fics more from Quinn’s POV than Rachel’s and it used to be the opposite.
When I follow a romantic storyline, whether it’s in a plain romance or a subplot in a Western or a mystery or a thriller, there’s just an inherent sympathy with the main character. Because there needs to be some kind of obstacle for drama, they’re portrayed as underdogs, people who the gorgeous, funny romantic interest wouldn’t necessarily go for (except they obviously always do).
And it’s interesting how that’s gone from season 1’s overly verbose, “ugly” loser getting the beautiful, popular cheerleader to what’s now the status after season 2: deeply unhappy, lost Quinn getting pretty, talented Rachel. It comes from having Rachel see Quinn have at least two mini-breakdowns (and missing a third in NYC) in season 2 alone and ending the season with Finn having picked her over Rachel. Quinn is now in the position of having to fight uphill.
It would be a more interesting turnaround if it wasn’t so sad and heavy-handed.
Random Opinion
I don’t really understand how people place Rachel in Slytherin.
I mean, I guess I understand on paper when you write down “ambition” and “cunning”, yes, Rachel is both of those, sometimes to the point where they drown out her conscience (damn Rachel-Sunshine-crackhouse storyline just ruins everything). But those are the qualities that define Slytherin. And they do not define her.
Has she shown less intelligence than cunning? Less bravery than ambition? As a matter of fact, how does an obsession with succeeding in the dream to become a successful musical performer translate over to the world of Slytherin, where ambition almost absolutely exists for power? It’s not as if Hogwarts or the HP-verse exists in a land with no song or music, and it is so very much part of what defines Rachel Berry. (Heh, I’m imagining her in Slytherin. It is funny.)
And the thing that has always redeemed her is her kindness. When being bullied and belittled even by people she considers friends, including Mercedes and Kurt, she has still gone out of her way to go to them and make them feel better. She forgives impossibly easily and is apologetic about her own mistakes.
If she were only about herself, would she have convinced Mercedes to do the solo in A Night of Neglect? Or made sure to know Kurt didn’t feel too isolated? Or not thrown “Lucy Caboosey” in Quinn’s face even once, after everything, especially the slap? Or given Sunshine the pep talk at Nationals?
She admitted after winning the MVP award that she wanted to belong more than anything else. And actually, even the Sunshine-crackhouse situation can be linked to that. If she were truly ambitious, she would have kept Sunshine at New Directions and wielded her as another tool. Instead, she didn’t want to lose the one thing she had, her undisputed status as the best singer. That’s sad more than it is evil.
(And two-gay-dad every-minority-ever-friendly Rachel as a member of the House that promotes pure-blooded wizardry? Hmmm. Yeah. No.)
Random Opinion
I don’t really understand how people place Rachel in Slytherin.
I mean, I guess I understand on paper when you write down “ambition” and “cunning”, yes, Rachel is both of those, sometimes to the point where they drown out her conscience (damn Rachel-Sunshine-crackhouse storyline just ruins everything). But those are the qualities that define Slytherin. And they do not define her.
Has she shown less intelligence than cunning? Less bravery than ambition? As a matter of fact, how does an obsession with succeeding in the dream to become a successful musical performer translate over to the world of Slytherin, where ambition almost absolutely exists for power? It’s not as if Hogwarts or the HP-verse exists in a land with no song or music, and it is so very much part of what defines Rachel Berry. (Heh, I’m imagining her in Slytherin. It is funny.)
And the thing that has always redeemed her is her kindness. When being bullied and belittled even by people she considers friends, including Mercedes and Kurt, she has still gone out of her way to go to them and make them feel better. She forgives impossibly easily and is apologetic about her own mistakes.
If she were only about herself, would she have convinced Mercedes to do the solo in A Night of Neglect? Or made sure to know Kurt didn’t feel too isolated? Or not thrown “Lucy Caboosey” in Quinn’s face even once, after everything, especially the slap? Or given Sunshine the pep talk at Nationals?
She admitted after winning the MVP award that she wanted to belong more than anything else. And actually, even the Sunshine-crackhouse situation can be linked to that. If she were truly ambitious, she would have kept Sunshine at New Directions and wielded her as another tool. Instead, she didn’t want to lose the one thing she had, her undisputed status as the best singer. That’s sad more than it is evil.
(And two-gay-dad every-minority-ever-friendly Rachel as a member of the House that promotes pure-blooded wizardry? Hmmm. Yeah. No.)
