I’m not a big fan of the old L word. I think I stopped watching at some point cause I was getting bored then a few months later I thought ‘ugh I still have to finish this show’ and I did. For now I’m enjoying the new season. Shane’s still boring and repetitive, but I’m curious about Alice, Bette (Tina) and her daughter arcs and I like Dani (I’m waiting for her to hook up with Bette). It’s not the best show out there, but it never was. People expectations were too high.

Yeah, I guess there are so few shows that are so deliberately about wlw (I guess just this one and Lip Service), people ascribe all kinds of meaning and representational weight to it. It does seem like the new one is improving on the latter, anyway. I’m glad you’re finding the new one more enjoyable!

This is not an ask, sorry, but I miss Kate Littlejohn. She was such a great character and played so beautifully well by a great actress. I can’t say I was a huge fan of the whole show but I really did love that character.

Oh, same! She was so unusual and allowed to be. I always like when characters are written outside of existing archetypes, but I love when they’re women and not punished for it or forced back to a norm.

I was up and down on the show, sometimes really liking eps, and it helped that I was a fan of pretty much all the characters, sometimes not agreeing with choices they made, but she was awesome always. She’d have done amazingly in her own show. Although maybe part of the reason she came across so well was that the ensemble allowed her to bounce off against them and shine, but I think she could have been a fun lead.

Besides all the pain and disasters happening on For All Mankind, at least we got to see Karen hang out with Wayne again. I always feel like Karen should just scream out all her frustrations and sadness but getting high with Wayne and actually talking things out is good too lol.

Lol, yes, beside all that. Actually, though, I thought the Disaster in the last ep unfolded so well? The use of music in that scene alone…. I just hope against hope that poor Harry Liu survived. 

Yeah! It was a relief to see where Karen ended up, you felt she was clearly (and understandably) unraveling. It was good she was able to get some of that out with Wayne. What good unlikely companions they’re becoming. 🙂

im sure you’re tired of this convo..but i’ll add.. when Jenny & Marina met, there were so many sparks, the whole first season – i needed to find out what happened with them. (i first watched it last year) – even if i couldn’t stand the rest of the show, that part pulled me in. Unfortunately there is nothing that pulls me in to the new one.. except for wanting to know what happened w tina, or the old character’s storylines. i’m hoping it gets better, but i feeling eh abt it.

Oh, no worries, and I get that, I do prefer seeing a ship actually build onscreen. That burn, seeing them fall in love, seeing what draws them to each other. Knowing what I do about the original, I don’t suppose anything good happened to them though, lol. I think things are still unfolding, though, and probably there will be some switching around of partners. But I get it, it happens. Maybe you can come back to it later and find it easier to binge.

1) I kinda agree(on some things) with your last anon about the new L word being boring. I feel like some of the characters aren’t compelling. Their storylines at the moment all feel rather aimless and lacking any stakes. The main couple Dani/Sophie have zero chemistry. Alice has more of an interesting dynamic with her gf’s ex wife. The editing is off, in that the scenes move to quickly or I’m not learning anything compelling in the time I’m with these characters.

2) Some of the acting in the pilot was not good, lol. It’s been 10 years and jumping into their stories and not seeing any buildup to the couples getting together is not the best. I’m going to give it one more episode, but if it still isn’t grabbing me I’m moving on to The Watchman.

You should watch Watchmen regardless of how you feel about this show, heh, but I hope you are able to warm to it! It feels such a waste to not be into a show that you were actually open to. Even now, it’s not like these shows come along often.

Like I said, I haven’t watched, so I can only go by what others have said but some people seem to really like it so far. Chemistry is subjective but from what I’ve heard it may not be Dani/Sophie’s chemistry you need worry about but Dani/Bette? >_> Some of the differences may also just be down to how storytelling styles have changed, like how even the TV Star Treks seems fundamentally different from the previous ones. Aside from random Netflix sitcoms, I don’t really think we’ll be seeing shows written like they were back then no matter what we watch.

But of course if you’re not enjoying it, who am I to tell you to stick with it? 

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