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Juls did tell vale she was in love with her already in that cafe scene after the car scene, but I read that specific perversion scene as vale realizing that yes, juls does still love vale even though they are broken up

And another anon:

I’m not sure about the other anon but Juliana did say I love you. She said I’m in love with you after the car scene. For Spanish is almost the same. Even better because I love you could be platonic, but the other is just romantic. Val is the one that didn’t said it. She said my love multiple times after lucho and Sergio left but that I remember she didn’t said it to Juls. Val react like that because she didn’t believe Lupe was gonna do that

@poppin-poblanopeppers​ said:

So just to clear up the different forms of love and whatnot that they’re said to each other: Valentina definitely told her that she cares about her, or loves her platonically with the “te quiero” scene in the hospital, then Juliana says “me encantas” which is like I like you/fancy you, so anon is totally correct in saying that they haven’t said I love you to one another. Theyve said that they’re in love with each other “estamos enamoradas” but it’s such a huge and POWERFUL thing to say “Te Amo”

Right, I did wonder about how the cafe scene compared, but I wasn’t sure of the degree of it. 

@dealanexmachina​ actually added a pretty great response to my original answer, where she brought up a different and also plausible theory: http://dealanexmachina.tumblr.com/post/182675246227/you-know-what-i-just-realized-that-juls-says

@pero-me-encantas said:

i wanted to write up some thoughts on this too, but haven’t had the time yet.  I think it is affirmation of the pact.  Bc. in Val’s mind, she broke the pact.  But here she hasn’t, even though she doesnt feel they can be together with everything going on.  Here is Juls not letting anyone come between their love.  And then she grabs her hand…el pacto.  🙂 .  Just my thoughts.

Aww, yeah, that’s true. Val’s probably in a pretty confused place at the moment, first the breakup, then Juls still calling up to check on her, then Juls possibly in cahoots with their driver, then she’s not, then more flirting and a kiss while still not together. But this is confirmation that Juls really does still have feelings for her, really strong feelings she’s willing to stand up to the only person in her life for.

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WAIT, how many episodes of Amar A Muerte are there left?? The previews already said it’s their “últimas semanas”? Final weeks?

Yeah, buddy. Just 17 eps left, and the last two airing together as a finale on a Sunday, so three weeks left, really.

And another anon:

Your blog gives me life!! What episode do julianita and vallenata start having scenes together? Or should I watch from the beginning?

Thanks! Juliana and Valentina meet in the 9th ep, but they both feature from the very start, you miss some of their individual story if you go from just the 9th or 10th ep. I don’t really know what you would want to do. If you know you can watch the rest of the story, I’d say start from the beginning and if you don’t like it, skip ahead or just go to the Juliantina playlist, and if you just want to watch the gay, then go directly to the playlist.

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you know what? I just realized that Juls says “love isn’t a perversion” and the face that Val does when she hears it. Like, even indirectly, Juls was saying that she loves Val and I don’t remember they saying they love each other before so… that’s some poetic shit

Ohhh, do you think so? @dealanexmachina and I were actually discussing the focus on Val in that moment.

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It couldn’t be that she was freaked out by it on the heels of a pretty traumatic few days because she offered the handhold in support a second after. We theorized maybe it was the realization of why the breakup and what Juls is going through, since Juls had mentioned her mom’s reaction as one of the factors behind it. Or maybe it was just because it is still more Val’s story, Maca being fifth billed, higher even than Claudia, Eva’s actress.

But you have brought up an entirely new and feasible theory. I’ll state up front that I have no idea about the different words for love in Spanish, but you could be spot on. Especially if it’s a confirmation to Val that, yeah, even if they’ve broken up, Juls still feels very strongly about her. Hmmmmm. But it is super romantic, to come out like that.

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I know a lot of people are praising panchito for supporting juls and that’s great! But like… isn’t he still married and cheating on his wife? Or am I missing something?

Well, it being a telenovela, the cheating just isn’t that big a thing, if people are even following that part of his story, I would guess there’s some tunnel vision toward characters and how they interact with Juliantina. And, well, the two things can be separate. It is a good thing to not be homophobic, whatever else. 

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Mmm…what Lupe did was awful, but can you believe how accurate her reaction was to this?

The writer does deserve a lot of credit for getting so much of the dialogue so spot on, realistic and in a way that agrees with Lupe’s previous characterization of really loving Juls and thinking this comes from a place of protective love, while also showing how flat out wrong she is. It is different from Eva, who’s very much about the family name and reputation. Which brings me to…

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I think it’s interesting how we assumed Lupe would be a /little/ more accepting of Juls/Val given how they’ve presented their bond. If anything, Eva’s reaction was slightly better?? She did voice her ‘support’ (I use the term loosely) for sexual diversity in society, she only really gives a shit about it becoming scandalous for her family. Although she’s hurtful, Lupe’s words towards Juls were unbearably personal, and scary. Praying for those who have to face such treatment from loved ones.

It is interesting, isn’t it, we were like, well, she loves her, so much. 

The audience would see that too. And yet…here we are.

Actually, I bet there aren’t a few people watching who might agree with her? That a loving parent should try to…help? their child and steer them away from this? Which is why it’s so important that the narrative has consistently shown her to be so wrong, it’s not even funny. If they see themselves in Lupita, they are getting an earful.

I don’t know if you can really qualify her or Eva’s reactions in a way where one is slightly better or less worse. Eva got super vicious in there too, remember, about ending alone, about how their parents would react. And in a way, isn’t it as bad to say, I’m fine with it in others but not you? Not my sister? I wouldn’t say Val felt particularly cheered by that general support for other gays, lol. 

And another anon:

i am in no way defending lupe– she’s definitely homophobic– but i do think that some of it comes from a genuine fear for Juliana. she spoke a lot about what this will mean for her in society and how they will treat her and that Juls has gone through too much already with El Chino as her father. i hope that her love for Juliana and desire to protect will eventually turn into her supporting them

Like I said above, I do agree that it’s from a protective place, but–actually, I think you sent this before last night’s ep, when she straight up call it indecent. And I mean, she’s the one who kept Chino in their lives… Still, I think she will come around.

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to the anon that said that people celebrated name days in Mexico… we don’t lol at least the majority of the population doesn’t and the circles in which Val moves definitely wouldn’t, it’s just that some people (mostly in small towns) still give their kids the name that’s marked on the calendar but it’s not really a thing anymore. it probably just seems weird to that anon that Val doesn’t know because well… it’s St. Valentines and everyone knows when that is lol

Oh, okay, look at these little things we’re learning. 😀

But yeah, how did she forget for even a second? Shows how little she thought of romance before. Now she’s going to be the dreamiest, most romantic gf of all time.