I started watching amar a muerte from the beginning after watching all the Juliantina scenes bc i was really intrigued by the story. So far one of the characters i’ve enjoyed watching (when she’s not with Johnny) is Lucia. I’m only on ep 12, but it’s really interesting to me all the flashbacks she has of Leon bc i think she really loved him but just everything else shows something different and i kinda just want to know more about that

Johnny is honestly the worst part of the show to me. Away from him, I actually like Lucia a lot. Angelique Boyer is great and also Lucia’s just plain interesting in how she interacts with the Carvajals. I think she did eventually grow to love Leon and a part of her just wants to be accepted by his kids, by any family, but Guille and Val are at least nice people too. Jacobo is obviously younger and ostensibly better looking than Leon but a lot of what attracts Lucia to him are the parts that remind her of Leon. If the scheme had been allowed to go on longer and she didn’t live in a telenovela, she’d probably have fully fallen in love with Leon and that would be that.

As with everything on that side of the story, her relationship with Val is particularly of interest. I’ve said before that the Juliantina parts kind of slow down the story and make it more real and that’s true there too. Both Val and Lucia loved Leon in a wistful kind of way, in the hopes of what could have been and now both miss him bitterly and have bonded over that in a way the others don’t really share.

Claudia just said Valentina is 25 on her IG live

Same anon about Valentina’s age- I think Claudia was confused and thought someone was asking Maca’s age…. because 25???? Juls is only 18?? 

And a bunch of other anons:

When was it confirmed that Juliana was 18 and Vale in her twenties?

Am I right in saying that Juls is 18 and Val is 25/26? I’ve seen those numbers tossed out but idk if they’re correct.

Did they ever say how old Val is?

I’m confused. How old is Juliana and Valentina???

Pretty sure that Claudia (Eva’s actress) answering Val’s age as 25 is the source of all that you’re hearing. I…am not ready to believe that, lol, I’ll wait for confirmation.

Juliana has been confirmed as 18 in the show. 

I’ve fallen for Juliantina but I feel like some of the language nuances are getting lost in translation (I’m watching the English subs). If you can, can you explain how when Val said “I love you” to Juls with Lucho in bed next to her it was romantic?

dealanexmachina:

Okay so first up, Spanish has different words for the verb, to love. There’s me gusta, te quiero, me encantas, te amo. And caveat: there are variations in Spanish speaking cultures on what the usage of those words is. Mexican culture is gonna differ slightly than Spanish culture which is gonna differ from Venezuelan culture and Argentinian etc. That said, here goes:

In the context of dating and romantic love, people often go through progressions of love, right? So that is why you’ll see people transition through me gusta, te quiero, and te amo.

Or as I like to classify it:

  • me gusta: girl friend / boy friend (two words)
  • te quiero:  “girlfriend” / “boyfriend” (one word, quotation marks)
  • te amo: GIRLFRIEND / BOYFRIEND.

Me gusta – that is “I like.” I like oranges, or yeah, that person is dope, I like her. Me gusta punk rock as the song goes etc. Nothing romantic ever.

Te amo: only means “I love you” in the romantic way. You really only reserve it for your significant other, when you are in a real committed relationship for a while. You know how saying “I love you” for the first time in a relationship is a big deal? Spanish allows you to express that meaning very clearly with te amo.

Te quiero – is the in-between stage of like and love. Quiero literally means “I want.” Yo quiero taco bell- I want taco bell. But, when used with pronouns and people, it means “I want you,” “I care for you,” “I love you” “I really like you.”  

It can get really, really tricky, because it is a big catch all. The variation of usage ranges from “I love my dog” or “I love my friends” to “I love my child or parents”; however especially when paired with “mucho,” it can also mean “I care very deeply about you in a romantic way.” 

So you really have to determine meaning through tone and context. Even before breaking the heteronormativity case that Val and Juls are operating under and introducing the “hey, you might like girls” layer, the vocabulary is already complicated just to distinguish “like” vs “like like.”  

On top of all of that, Valentina is someone who has never been in love, doesn’t believe in romantic love, BUT she is also in canon, the character with the biggest heart and most universally beloved.

So what you’ve got is someone who throws herself into her feelings, has a lot of them, and feels DEEPLY, but is a complete bambi when it comes understanding how to differentiate friend love vs romantic love, how to articulate her feelings properly. It’s the reason why I refer to her as Unintentional Dreamboat, because she says these THINGS that are so genuinely romantic without realizing just how romantic they are. 

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