Hi. I know it’s been cancelled but why do you think Madeleine slept on the floor. Notice it happens with both Wren and that sketchy reporter. Thanks again.

Hmm, yeah, when other people are there, but am I misremembering or does she do it when alone too? I mean, I don’t think it’s to get away from her bed partner, I think it’s just how she sleeps on the outside. And my immediate theory, without even thinking much about it, had been that it was because she wasn’t used to a big soft bed anymore. 

Spoiler alert if you’re not caught up on in the dark: not sure if you’re still watching it, but man, I’m annoyed with the newest ep. I know the focus was never on Jess/Vanessa, but I’m irritated that they went the cheating route with them and that Jess is embroiled in lying to the cops now. I really liked Jess & u know the lying will come back to bite her in the ass. And Jess/Vanessa are doomed Bc she cheated ugh there are zero f/f ships left again, even in the periphery. Need new f/f material.

Anon! I actually just finished watching it a little while ago and same! The lying to the cops part, I’m okay with that personally, that is just what the show is, people are going to get into and out of messes, and it gives her a plot and a reason to have her own screentime, but to Vanessa…and the whole “I could lie to the cops and Vanessa but not to you”, that diminishes her own relationship so much. You don’t have to prop up the main character THAT much, she doesn’t even need it! It’s a great friendship on its own. 

Maybe she shouldn’t be with Vanessa, if she can cheat on her and lie to her. I like my ships but I like shipping my ships. I really do like Vanessa but if Jess isn’t that into her, then don’t keep her around as some poor fool or to watch this slowly become a toxic mess. But really, my issue isn’t with the fact that Jess doesn’t seem to treat Vanessa as well as she should, it’s that the show uses them for convenience. And I really did not like how they threw around “actual/real lesbian”. The show’s reinforcing Jess’s incorrect attitude of putting her insecurities on Vanessa. First they make Vanessa dismiss Jess’s concerns so they can argue and then they act like that’s because she’s bi??? As if real lesbia–I’m just tired of even discussing this. It was lazy and dumb writing and I think the show could have done better.

Last TV season my fave 3 wlw ships were Kate/Anya, Emma/Cruz and Charlotte/Lady Fitz. I’m 0/2 now. If anything bad happens to C/LF I’m sorry, I’m cursed. BTW I was sad Anya was never mentioned again and the show treated it like it never happened. But it got canceled before Kate and Leonard happened and we all know it was going to happen so I’m okay with Kate getting a good ending for herself. But I’m pissed the way Vida retconned Cruz. The disrespect. I can’t even watch/support the show now.

Oof, buddy. And a ship on Harlots! You do like to live dangerously. Actually, Liv Tyler returning at all was so unexpected, I don’t know if you’re cursed so much as maaaaybe not picking the most solid of ships, heh.

It was pretty weird how FtP just dropped any mention of Anya as if she never existed, but they do seem to do that with personal relationships, dropping them and picking them up as suits the plot. They did that for pretty much everyone except Jill and Roger. Even Kate/Leonard only got some charged exchanges at the start and then that was it, so if you don’t like it in the one, then I guess you have cause to be grateful about it in the other? Heh.

Re: Cruz, that one, I’ll give you, there was no reason to think her role would be shortened. If anything, the opposite. Like you, I would say, I’m a bit of a romantic and get attached to couples. But Vida is not really that kind of show. I did hear about how Cruz was written this season and that was disappointing but overall, it’s meant to be more a full on drama about these very underserved issues and not something to pin shipping hopes on. Which, we ourselves get so little so it still feels unfair, like, how few shows at all stick with the same f/f couple over multiple seasons, but we can’t hold one show responsible for the whole industry’s failure. It’s still got a lot of good things going for it, so while you certainly don’t have to watch it, I wouldn’t write it off for everyone.