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How are you liking the show Hanna?

Tooooo be honest I’m not sure it’s really justified its existence. The original movie was so good and fun, not just for its premise or action (or the amazing actors) but because the execution was so perfect, the music, the colors, not explaining much, Sophie’s…everything. 

The TV show, okay, so it went at least far beyond the story of the movie, it needed to do that, but…I dunno. The mystery from the movie helped it, if anything, finding more about the program that created them isn’t something I was particularly invested in. We’ve all seen the Bourne movies or similar, it’s not going to be anything new. 

I’m not loving it as much as you would expect me to love a show about a teen girl assassin and then even more teen girl assassins. It just takes itself so seriously. I think that’s my major problem with it, my favorite moments are when it lets loose and has fun. I don’t hate it, at all, and I enjoyed the second season more, for a variety of reasons, but it’s not at the top of my faves list at the moment.

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Following what the creator said in that interview, I think Beatrice/Ava is gonna be one side. Still is amazing

I’m gonna jump around a bit the remaining asks a bit because I wanted to answer this now, which you sent some days back and I assume are speaking about his answer in the VIFF interview + Q&A? Where he said Beatrice’s feelings are clear but Ava is, well, that’s the drama for next season? And tbh, I didn’t read that entirely optimistically either, it actually didn’t promise anything.

But in today’s interview with Variety, he was asked about the queerness (or lack of it) in this season and this is what he answered:

There’s definitely something there with Ava and Beatrice [Kristina Tonteri-Young] in the sense that, Beatrice openly admits she’s gay and that’s a part of her journey and part of our story. Does that define Ava? Well, that remains to be seen. I mean, we have more seasons hopefully to tell the story and that will be an ongoing journey, not something that is easily defined in one scene with one life, you know? Um, and I don’t think we want Ava defined by a singular thing any more than we want Beatrice defined by a singular idea. In regards to a queer character or whatever, we don’t want them to be defined by that. We want them to be defined by who they are and let their sexuality and let their relationships and let their journeys be included in that. We never tried to paint any character with just one defining characteristic. By defining Ava and Beatrice too quickly or too irresponsibly, we could kill it and ruin it. And I don’t want to do that either. So for now, let’s just say we are open and exploring, much like the characters are.

That seems more optimistic, tbh? Like, as much as he can’t give away the plot, he’s implying more. Of course, he could still mean nothing at all, in which case, lol, I hope whatever they do decide is handled really incredibly well, considering we’re not the ones creating polls about the ship name. 😛

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boocita I’ve been bingewatching WN on your recommendation and when ava made it through the training wall after facing her fear bea really looked at her like she was ready to break her sacred vows ?. also i thought shannon / mary was legit canon from the first ep i thought it was so weird nobody explicitly referred to it bc it seems hella obv and intentional??

I don’t know anyone by that name. =_=

My recommen–I did wh–it was no such thing! Unless you’re liking it? Then yes. 🙂

Haha, yes, after the training, that was the closest thing we got to anything canon. I mean, it IS canon one-sided at least, for now. Break her vows, lol. I’m kind of tickled at what research must be going into writing the fic for them. “Does a kiss–does another woma–does it have to be…hmm.”

Yeah, Shannon and Mary, I think all the viewers were like, uhhh, that’s clearly something, but it seems the writers weren’t intending for it. Just ended up a combination of the writing needing to sell that friendship as transformation for Mary and then Toya really leaning into the physicality We might still get some flashbacks next season that elaborate on that, now that they know people are reading them that way, and also, Mary was a lesbian in the comics, and I LOVE Beatrice, of course, who doesn’t, but I also don’t like the idea that lesbian characters are interchangeable or that they removed a Black lesbian. It’s not as if all the characters are completely new for the show, Shotgun Mary was a character in the comics. Just something I’ll be looking to, though I don’t know which way they’ll go and it won’t be a deal breaker if they don’t stick with it, I’ll just be disappointed.

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What most funny for me is that sometimes Ava looks like a toddler and is very, VERY cute; but in other moments she is ultra hot(see the scene when she takes off the habit)

Yes, all jokes about her resemblances to other actresses aside, Alba Baptista did an amazing job embodying all the different parts of this character. Honestly, I think we do kind of get distracted by how hot she is, she is very much the typical pretty thin white lead, for sure, and as you said, when she dresses up or is all serious like in the cool girl walk after taking off the habit, it’s right there, BUT, Ava is a freaking dork. 

Everything she thinks and feels is right there on her face, and a lot of that is just curiosity or naivete and she’s just cute in those moments. And come on, nobody who makes those puns and then like, wiggles her eyebrows to make sure she gets a laugh is a Cool Girl.

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ooo what’s this perry show? is it any good, i saw tatiana maslany is in it

Honestly, I’m not loving it as a whole. >_> It’s a reboot of the original Perry Mason show, which aired all the way back in the ‘60s! But that was a legal drama, here, they’ve made him a private detective. My own memories were of catching reruns of not the original show but the TV movies they made with the same actors many years later but I still didn’t even watch those, I just saw some old guy in a court and that was it.

History lesson aside, this is HBO so of course it’s Prestige, with the money to match. They’ve changed the time and set it back in the ‘30s, investigating a baby kidnapping/murder. It’s not just a mystery, right, there’s a lot of setting the scene and supporting background work. Tatiana Maslany’s character is an evangelical (based on the same real life person Kerry Bishe’s character in Penny Dreadful: City of Angels was) who offers some of that color, and is supporting the dead baby’s mother.

I’m finding it gorgeous to look at but not really particularly compelling, otherwise. Yet, anyway. Della Street is the secretary of the lawyer who keeps Perry hired, and is pretty independent-minded and awesome, so her parts are cool but she’s not anywhere near the lead, so. This fourth ep was the first with any details about her background, and they weren’t much.

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since Aeon Flux I have wanted Charlize Theron to be a gay in an action movie! and I am only watching a few spoilers here, but it seems she wont be kissing any girls in this. (yes, i know we got atomic blonde, but how did that end huh?) yes, I am greedy. I do want her to be gay in ALL movies she plays the main action hero! whatever

Haha, yes, once I found out what was gonna happen in Atomic Blonde, I lost interest. 

She’s not explicitly wlw in this, although as I said to a friend, she certainly looks it, and a badass woman with no m/f romance, that’s…kind of ours by default, lol, I totally get what you mean. But there is something subtexty in this that was canon in the comics. There’s still story left to tell and a clear setup for a sequel, so I think there is still the possibility it’ll go there, and if not, maybe that’s for an okay reason, considering literally what we just said about Atomic Blonde. Depending on where it goes. 😮

And another anon:

Really hoping that any potential Old Guard sequel doesn’t pull a ‘I want to kill you’ because Misunderstanding™️’ plot

I mean, is it a misunderstanding? If she’s mad that they stopped looking, that’s kind of true. Whether it was immediately or some years after, I don’t think that’d make much of a difference to her and I get it! God, cruelty in what she suffered… 

And another anon:

The Old Guard was really great. Charlize is usually meh to me but she was great and Kiki Layne is a star! I loved Joe and Nick as well, and I know it’s not a typical superhero movie but I couldn’t stop thinking of those marvel movies where they state after the fact that the neighbour who was in 1 scene was gay or they claim a look exchanged between nameless background characters was because love. That’s good I guess but also lazy, and we deserve more. JoexNick was such a welcome surprise.

It wasn’t good, don’t give them any credit for that! Booo, weakass blockbuster rep, booooo. 

Joe and Nicky were great, and the softie that I am, I loved that they just got to be in love through the whole thing, no Conflicts because they were Tiring of Each Other After All This Time or whatever.

I used to be pretty ambivalent to Charlize but lately she’s just been getting more badass and hotter to me, so I’m slowly becoming an actual fan instead of neutral. I loved her in this one.

Kiki Layne was great! She played the full rollercoaster her arc demanded of her so well, coming into her own and making herself a real part of the team in such a short time, all while staying relatable and likeable.