Kat and Adena and Kate and Rana are both ships that were so good and then they did them So dirty

Yeah…my lgbt Muslim rep for a good chunk of time there…. :< 

Honestly, I feel a lot worse about Kana than Kadena. When I heard that, even in the first season, TBT hadn’t originally been intending a happy ending for Kadena, I was like, hmm, because that can say a lot about what the writers think of a story, obviously they could have changed their minds and pursued it and really committed, which is what I was looking for in s2, but that’s not what happened. Kadena fell apart because they just didn’t care about them, and that was easy to see, over how many seasons? My investment was slowly snuffed out. It was just never going to be better, it wasn’t the result of a mistake or even multiple mistakes, they just didn’t care about them.

Kana’s ending, on the other hand, was…timing. Timing and a misguided decision. If not for Bhavna wanting out, they could have gone another way, they were committed to them. They built them up so genuinely and yeah, there was that weird baby snafu near the end but it was so sudden. They didn’t end them out of apathy or hate, they THOUGHT they were doing something poignant and everlasting with it. Which I disagree with, of course, but I understand what they thought they were doing. I guess with distance it’s worth considering which approach was right, ending something slowly or quickly. I would prefer neither, lol. :/

Hi, thanks for your answer regarding Kadena. It wasn’t more negative than I expected. There’s very little positive, if anything, to say about that ship that had everyone so happy and hopeful a few years back. Now it’s just another disappointment to add to the bag. PS. i love your blog, i keep finding nice stories thanks to your gifs.

Ah, well, then sorry to be as negative as you expected! Heh, yeah… Been kind of a long downward trajectory there. Which, admittedly, did make it easier to just trail off paying attention, at least for me. And thanks! 

Are you still watching the bold type? What are your thoughts on kadena and the future of this couple? The fandom seems to have all but disappeared from tumblr

I’m not, I haven’t watched for a while. I’ve seen what’s been going on with Kadena and of course it makes sense the shipping fandom in particular is quiet when one character is barely around, but I still see some TBT posts. And if there are fewer posts in general, well, shipping in general tends to get a lot of fandom engagement, and this case, a lot of the original fandom were shippers.

This is more negative than you might have expected so I’m putting it under a cut:

I have two pretty conflicting opinions on Kadena and one of them is a pretty unpopular opinion on their future. First, I think that this show, which would sometimes even in s1, lead with plot first, has become a lot about that, and Adena in particular suffers from that kind of writing. And as their only Muslim and only lesbian character, I dislike a lot of what they decide to do with her and it feels bizarre that they’ll drop her for such long chunks at a time. It’s not rep when a character’s not there. 

But, as I said, the other conflicting and unpopular opinion, rep aside, just as a fan of coherent, internally consistent character writing, if Kat just isn’t really that into Adena, which is how all this comes across, just break them up for good. They didn’t seem interested in writing Adena as what she was, all the ways being a Muslim lesbian could have informed her character beyond what they showed in season 1, so just don’t. Don’t force yourself. I’d have side eyed that, but I side eye stuff I still watch all the time. It wouldn’t have been a dealbreaker. Just as long as the story is organic and not contrived because that’s what’s convenient. The more I find myself being pulled out of the story and having to connect the dots with my own justifications and wonder at what BTS drama made something happen, the less I want to watch.

If you’re asking about what I think the future of Kadena on the show might be, I think maybe they’ll go there again, maybe they’ll work through whatever issue there is now, I don’t really know.

Oh, absolutely, that storyline is absurd in any case, but I like the way Edie is like “why should I kiss other women?” (cause honestly why should she), and doing it just for Amanda instead of it being presented as a rite of passage. But you’re right it’s a stupid plot

Exactly! That’s what I really did not like in TBT’s treatment of it, that it was just like, a regular and expected thing. What did that say about people recently realizing they weren’t straight? That they couldn’t be expected to be faithful, they’d just NEED to sow their oats? Get it out of their system? It wasn’t any kind of actual exploration of open relationships of polyamory, instead it was about a newly bi person apparently needing to explore while the other person just…waited. 

Much prefer the way Edie handled it like, oh, that’s what you expect of me? And then being like, actually, that was dumb, why would I go through all that to be with you to then play around with other people? (Though of course, not sure why she’s so upset that Amanda’s still influenced by her ex, considering what she went through with Tim.)

Almost family is a mess of a show, but I feel they did the “this is your first same sex relationship you should experiment” storyline much better than the bold type. What do you think?

Yeah, I think I agree with that. 

Full disclosure: I hated it in both shows! It’s such an odd plot to write in for characters having had a recent sexual awakening. I get that for straight people, the comparison would be, you don’t marry your first girlfriend (even though some people do) but when you like someone, the advice isn’t, well, I guess you better start dating a bunch of people just to make sure? If it’s about them not having had the same chance to explore that kind of relationship, this awakening didn’t happen in the abstract, they literally found a person they liked enough to reexamine their sexual identity! In this fictional, romanticized TV world where endgame romances are possible (despite the obstacles, how many of the other women in these shows are floating around the same male love interests we met in the first season/eps?), how does it make sense for these characters to want to do that at this point? 

So, having not liked it at all, obviously I’ll prefer a show doing what looks to be hopefully just a two-ep arc and not a full season (or two), and as a shipper, of course it’s nicer when the love interest is the one to say, go ahead and then it doesn’t work, instead of the person first kissing someone else and then it becoming a thing.

t97carolina:

t97carolina:

Sunday Morning

Kat pours herself a second glass of wine, deep in thought.  She’s been mulling over this question she wants to ask for a few weeks.  It’s more serious than she tends to be, and she struggles to verbalize it.  Each time she thinks she’s prepared to ask, she can’t form the words.  Can’t admit what’s on her mind.

“Kat!” Jane’s voice pulls her out of her thoughts.

“Huh, uh, what?”

“What’s going on? You were totally spacing out.”

“Oh, it’s nothing.  I was just thinking” she tries to blow it off.

Jane and Sutton continue to look at her expectantly.  

Kat takes a sip of her wine, preparing herself to finally ask the question, “Uh, I was just wondering how you knew you were in love?”

Keep reading

http://archiveofourown.org/works/12467720 

if you want to read (or comment on AO3) ^

t97carolina:

t97carolina:

Sunday Morning

Kat pours herself a second glass of wine, deep in thought.  She’s been mulling over this question she wants to ask for a few weeks.  It’s more serious than she tends to be, and she struggles to verbalize it.  Each time she thinks she’s prepared to ask, she can’t form the words.  Can’t admit what’s on her mind.

“Kat!” Jane’s voice pulls her out of her thoughts.

“Huh, uh, what?”

“What’s going on? You were totally spacing out.”

“Oh, it’s nothing.  I was just thinking” she tries to blow it off.

Jane and Sutton continue to look at her expectantly.  

Kat takes a sip of her wine, preparing herself to finally ask the question, “Uh, I was just wondering how you knew you were in love?”

Keep reading

http://archiveofourown.org/works/12467720 

if you want to read (or comment on AO3) ^