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I don’t really see how Valentina wouldn’t be able to get over it. They were broken up, Valentina knows how much Juliana is struggling especially with the confrontation with her mom, Eva and the hospital fiasco. Not to mention El Chino and the cartel. Why wouldn’t Vale be able to get over it prior to any time jump?

I mean…that sounds fair. I guess we’re all thinking that’s just too easy? It’s the end of the story drama, it feels like it should be more prolonged than that. And while did you send this before Val found and was all, sometimes you just don’t know people to Renata, her reactions since seem to indicate she would be open to any explanation from Juls.

And another anon:

in telenovelas, it usually takes about one week or so, to reconcile after things like that, depending on how they play it out. if they go the “omg you are in danger i love you i cant lose you i dont care what happened before” and use the kidnapping, that would be legit. of course paired with the “i am so sorry, it was stupid, i love you so much, it’s only you i swear” or, they could do the whole “we are young, i am not safe here, i gotta move, i love you but” and then meet after time jump

That does seeeeem at the moment like where they could go. And the former! Hopefully not the latter. For like five seconds, I was like, yeah, maybe they do need a timeskip, but I’d forgotten everything they’re going to go through. I didn’t think Val was going to play such an active role in Juls’ kidnapping, gosh. It would be cruel to keep them apart.

And another anon:

I mean val and juls were broken up. No one cheated on anyone. Juls feels guilty, understandably, and val will be upset, understandably, but no one cheated on anyone. And to be honest, val isnt the one who is gonna suffer the most because of this, that person will be juls. It’s not a competition I guess, but that’s the facts.

Mhmm, you’re right about that. None of this is at all something Juls has been enjoying. What led to it, what happened, and the aftermath. And then being kidnapped and left to think about it immediately after.

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Do you think there will be a reunion tonight

Well, taking into account my 0% speculation accuracy, I would say…no? For no real reason, beyond the fact that they both have people and plots they have to deal with that should take at least a day? Juls with Beltran/Chino and the transmigration, Val with Lupe and the homophobia and Lucho’s death?

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Look I think we can all agree that Lucho dying was actually nuts. But we’re talking about the Universe here. I try and think of it as a whole. People be switchin bodies to make soulmates happen. Lucho was being a tool, causing unnecessary heartbreak, and violent. Who knows on one hand. He could have gone on to be a horrible person. For the girls but can you imagine him being with someone else and not treating her like Valentina? Lucho is still Lucho. The Universe does what it does ya’ll.

I mean…he was good in this last ep, and in his final moments, but he’s mostly been deeply horrible. A twist of a writer’s pen doesn’t make everything about him good. He was whatever he needed to be for the plot, just something to push everything along.

And other anons:

PLOT TWIST: the straight ex boyfriend dies for dramatic effect. ….. AAM said f*ck you to all the tropes, THIS is how you get it done.

Can you believe a show killed their prince charming look alike to save the lesbians?

This is actually the funny part, because he was written like how f/f characters usually are, with no other story or background beyond their interaction with one person. And that’s why we’re often so disposable to the story, because those characters offer nothing beyond that. AAM made their f/f characters so important they could literally be the reason behind the premise of the whole thing.

And other anons:

Going through last nights post it’s pretty much with the gays not knowing how to react/deal with Lucho being shot. We’re used to that type of character in between our wlw ships and we always wants them to go away but it never really happens until AAM. I get some didn’t quite grasp the way he dead but it’s a telenovela and they are all about DRAMATICS. This is how they treat their otp, we’ve actually had it not as bad as far as novelas goes even though it may feel like the angst are endless.

See what happens when the fandom says they wish lucho would just die and they actually end up shooting him very abruptly and now everyone is in shock also he didn’t even have a dying scene or a closing statement like he died really quick

Yeah, it was quick and super surprising and sad in the moment. Immediately jumping to protect the women.

But I think while there was some shock people came to terms with it pretty quickly, remembering most Lucho the rest of the time and what kind of show it is. And I would dare say that there might be some other wishing going on too.

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as much as we like to act all WOW about valentina snapping, is not even close to surprising. at the bench, before they broke up valentina made a whole speech about “, i dont care i will fight anyone, whoever, i dont care as long as i get to be with you” and it shows. it shows she doesnt care about lucho’s feelings, or lupe’s. she thinks she lost the one thing she wanted, and there is nothing scarier that someone who has nothing to lose, that is why she seems lethal

Yep. It’s one thing to say that in the heat of the moment or in desperation but Val is walks the talk.

And tbh, it says so much about her when you look at when she chooses to fight. She didn’t even not care about Lucho’s feelings? He insulted her, he insulted Juls, she just stood up for them. And the one time she called out Lupe was when Lupe was dillydallying in saving Juls. She’s an ultra forgiving person, some would almost say too much so, the way she always forgives Lucho and Eva and are afraid she’ll forgive Juls too easily, but isn’t that what makes her her? She’s just that loving and kind. But yeah, this latest event has been an exercise in showing a Val on a rampage, and that’s been pretty cool to watch.

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Thank you for being one of the few Juliantina blogs that isn’t shitting on people who had bad resctions to last night’s episode and for being so kind in how you replly to all these asks even though you probably have like 5 million to sift through. Hope you have a good day!

(Sorry for replying to this so late. Obviously anon sent this last week, I started my response then which is why it might seem disjointed.)

Ah, well. I would think people are probably reacting to or preemptively reacting to what they knew would be…rather emotionally negative responses? They’ve invested a lot in this already and they want to keep it positive And for some people there’s also the identification with this as a part of their culture, so there maybe some of the “I can criticize it but not outsiders” perspective which we all understand, right, it is difficult to gauge what place some criticisms are coming from. If they’re from a place of understanding and seeing what the repercussions are to its specific audience or of it’s more, this isn’t what I wanted, as an outsider.

Having said that, it obviously is up to people how they want to react to things. As long as they’re not forcing that opinion on anyone else, I don’t think anyone can judge how others respond. 

And another anon:

Have u noticed that every f/f fandom that has some fuckery go down ends up attacking each other for decisions to stop watching/ take some emotional distance? I’ve seen so many ppl attacking “fake” fans for taking some distance after the Sergio thing, but I don’t think it’s a badge of honor to make urself miserable over poorly written tv, just like I don’t think it’s bad to keep watching if it’s not negatively affecting u. I feel like f/f fandoms have to work on being kinder to each other lol

I definitely agree but that works both ways. I’ve also seen negative comments toward people who do want to continue watching, as in, they should love themselves more, that this lets “them get away with it” and is the reason why we keep getting bad rep and it’s settling and so on. 

I’ve always said this, but bad behavior in fandom is really just bad behavior in general. Nobody should be harassing each other over this. You are so right in saying we should be kinder to each other, because there are reasons why everyone chooses to do what they do. If there was just that bit of understanding and nuance. If they don’t want to watch anymore, they shouldn’t have to. It’s that simple. It’s not up to fans to watch things they don’t want to. It’s very rude to say they’re fake or to want them to continue to “support” something they don’t want to. For any reason, let alone something that makes them feel bad. And of course vice versa, nobody wants to be made miserable over TV, they’re watching for different reasons.

And another anon:

I am jealous of your understanding anons! My inbox is stuffed with pissed off people who hate me for expressing my negative feelings on this episode lol

Aww, see, that’s not right. As long as you were respectful, you can say whatever the heck you want. 

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With the scene on the elevator with the hitman. I don’t watch the whole show so I was a little confused. Was Juls moving away from him because he was being a lech or was it because she recognized him or both? And then how did Valentina know? From the look Juls gave her or…

I don’t think she recognized him, he wasn’t part of the uh, Texan chapter that originally harassed her and her mom, I think it was just him being a full creeper. And Val took her cues from that, I don’t think either realized until he started talking about Chino that it was one of those guys.

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honestly Lupe can choke. Valentina heard about the kidnapping and within an hour was calling the cops going to the press, she was doing everything to bring Juls, but Lupe that woman knew who took Juls where she was and remained silent and trusted a stranger to do the job, not to mention she tries to play hero and RUNS when the bullets start leaving her daughter behind like a mother wouldve jump in front of bullets not ran, hell Juls did it for Val you know.

Her part in this ep must have been to provide comedy relief, because lmao, what was she doing? Why did she show up then if she was only going to run away? Well, I assume she finally clued in on there being a plan.

But anyway, now that the show is literally pulling the in a locked room together until they hash out their differences trope with them, maybe now is finally the time she stops being such a dick to Val?