Yepppppp. I get they needed someone non-threatening and easy to dump at the end of it all but…him? Anyway, he’s on not that much in s1 but he starts appearing more. Hopefully not so for s3. >_>
Hi! This is the anon from months (weeks? Who can tell anymore) ago, who was worried about them going the comic route and having a poly thing with Kiteman. So glad you were right! I can’t say I loved the finale, but it was better than I feared! I do think it was poorly paced and structured (whole season tbh) and that Ivy’s motivations should have been communicated better. It was… very fast there at the end, would have liked a bit more time before they got together. I overall like the show tho!
Lol, it was a while back, true! It just didn’t seem like they wanted to go there for any of the three of them, you know? Still grateful, though!
Heh, what did you fear from the finale if this was better? For me, it was perhaps the ep that fell shortest of my expectations? Although maybe that’s on my expectations for being too high, wanting it to take care of everything that needed addressing this season. But yes, I do agree overall it was a bit rushed and oddly paced, the season as a whole like you said, it just…it felt like they took arcs that could have been resolved in a couple of episodes but padded out a whole season for them.
But still! I liked a lot of things and am in a great place with them regardless, I do understand what they were trying with Ivy and if the fear behind never writing Harley as actually being bad enough to need growth was because they were protective of her character, I absolutely sympathize. In these tags and asks today I’ve worked through my frustrations (and then some) and am now a lot more chill and relaxed about it all. Onward to hopefully s3, and if not, at least the continuing rise of Harlivy as an iconic ship!
ALSO how did *poison ivy* get gassed??? (Side note when will harley get her immunity??)
Oh, yeah, she’s supposed to be immune to that, right, except for the Special Formula from s1. Maybe everyone has it now?
Ok, so, Harley’s immunity, I’ve read that that’s kind of a big deal, right? That in some comic continuity, Harley’s the only one Ivy’s specifically given immunity? Which…nice. But I wondered, on the rooftop in ep 2×12, when the Justice League got dosed, Harley, the closest, wasn’t affected at all. Does that not mean she’s immune?
Damn i really needed more from Ivy in that episode
Honestly, this was my biggest disappointment. I didn’t love every choice made this season but I could at least see why they were made, what they were going for, and honestly, individually, I would finish each of the previous eps and be like, I really enjoyed that. Heck, I loved the banter with the Justice League in the last ep and had been hoping they would show up, I don’t get how that seemed so much more natural and fun than most of this ep, which was just kind of forced along by plot.
But the understanding was always that, as much as they were separated and we were seeing Harley’s POV, at some point we would get to see Ivy’s. The finale would have benefited so much, following ep 12, when everything’s revealed, as being the Ivy Ep, going deeper into her background and feelings and really show why she was so determined to marry a guy she didn’t love, and then end with her making the decision to go with Harley. We’ve seen similar eps for Harley in both seasons, where she had her epiphanies and made her speeches.
Like, the big moment in the car in the end, when Ivy’s like, Harley just trying is enough…what did she mean, was the driving around in the parking lot maze (the maize maze, lol) getting lost the part that convinced her? I said it earlier, but Harley’s clearly been trying to fix things for a while, so narratively, is simply KM removing himself the reason why? That comes across so….I mean, maybe that was to save them from being the bad guys, let KM be the one to end it, but she could have made her choice and he could have been like, I understand, and bowed out gracefully, and that would not have changed much! Because surprise, people are still freaking angry at Harlivy. Misogyny and homophobia didn’t go anywhere, if they really wanted to not make them the bad guys, then don’t write in the cheating to begin with.
I just hope now that a lot of what we’d wanted for these eps happens in season 3. If I’m honest, just returning to season 1 level interactions but now with the explicitly romantic layer would be enough for me, heh.
Wait so did Ivy finally dump kite man and did she not go thru w the wedding? I’ve been waiting to watch Bc I don’t trust the writers lol. And for some reason kite man seems to be popular with ppl which makes no sense to me Bc he was a total dick in the ep I watched.
Well. Well! She– Hmm. Okay. Soooo…no? Heh. HE realized how much she didn’t want to marry him and dumped her and left. >_>
I’m of two minds about it, tbh, because on the one hand, yes, it is absolutely clear to everyone, including the audience, that Ivy loves Harley, so if he left because she didn’t love him or HE left because she didn’t love him, same difference. But on the other hand, there was a TON of him and there’s just BEEN so much of him, and exactly as you said, people seem to love him and I don’t know if the writers get that when it comes to female characters, it doesn’t even matter if they’re the leads, people will jump at any chance to center men. So even though I don’t think they like, sidelined Harley or Ivy for him, you gotta just expect a certain reaction and account for it. Aside from the actual plot point of it still being nice if Ivy made the decision.
But like, to be very precise in this, it’s not that the disappointment I have for this ep is deep, I’m just working through having any at all. I’m mostly venting because I think they could have just so easily made different and better choices, or ones I preferred, anyway. I wouldn’t at all dissuade people from watching, especially the whole show.
Wow that HQ episode! It was really sweet and Harley confessed her love like three times lol. I hope we get an Ivy confession for the finale – it’s her turn, IMO! Also, ty for giffing it and ty to the other anons for talking about it so much on here! :) I started watching b/c you guys got me so curious about it!
She diddd, it was just all Harley trying to save her girl while openly telling everyone she loved her. Harley does everything so…unabashedly. 🙂 But definitely waiting for Ivy to say it now! I mean, I get it’s the big culmination of the arc so they can’t reveal too much for fear of diluting the tension or give it away before the season finale, but we’re here now! I’m ready for it. And I’m glad you’re enjoying it! I’ll pass on the thanks to my friend for making me watch it. 😛