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December 13, 2020

I just can’t get over this. All these people who whined about how we don’t need any more coming out stories, and then – like you said – turning around to say the most appalling weird and clueless stuff about closeted people; as if they’re somehow less queer because they’re not out. I’m so glad for your posts, honestly, I felt like I was the crazy one, seeing people I had thought of as thoughtful and compassionate just lay into Harper like she’s an unforgivable monster for being in?!?

Yeah! You really can’t say the time and scope for these stories is over and then be like THAT about closeted people??

And for real, I was so taken aback by who I was seeing these comments from! It wasn’t homophobes, it wasn’t even just those people whose whole shtick is snark and cattiness, it was people who say things like, everyone’s journey is different, this coming out day remember the people can’t come out now, don’t excuse people for so and so action but have compassion for them, it was really hurtful and was like that one quote from that popular Tumblr post? Where you suddenly feel unwelcome where you thought you had friends? This is our own community…

I saw people call Harper straight! What?? That she shouldn’t have a gf at all, she’s a coward for not coming out, she’s too old to be going through this, and then worse, not even about this fictional character but about closeted people in general, this is why you shouldn’t date closeted people above a certain age, this is why you shouldn’t date them at all.

A lot of the discussion has already covered the fact that these opinions are coming from people who were closeted themselves, but I think in some ways that actually makes it worse? Because there’s a sense of, well, I did it, so why can’t they? Despite the differences in not just circumstances but culture and priorities and just people individually.

December 12, 2020

I think I watch too much wlw tv cos as soon as I saw Shelby and Toni going at it I was like … lesbians

Heh, I actually really like that we can now see and recognize actual buildup and tension in f/f storylines, this used to be an area in which we’d just be considered delusional for seeing any kind of subtext. And I also like that more and more, there actually is some buildup and not the writers rushing it and going there in a first ep.

And another anon:

I just finished the episode where Shelby and Toni kiss and as much as I knew it was coming/saw the build up, for me, the couple of the show should have been Rachel and Leah. Their chemistry those first few episodes was so good and even the tension I liked. It was an enjoyable season though. I did wish Fatin was the lead, she just super layered and hilarious. Also I just like how that actress played it!

Oh, I didn’t even think of that, I guess I was already waiting for Toni/Shelby, I didn’t think we’d get another pair, not even…heh, MY other pair, Dot/Fantin. I really did love Fantin, in all her laziness and unapologeticness and basic decency and kindness. The actress played her SO well, just making these dry observations, she was a joy to watch.

And another anon:

Was there a bet in the writing room of the wilds on how to make the lesbian characters more off putting? Pee, anger, dentures, shaved head. The only part of the show that i didn’t enjoy was these two, i prefer Toni with her first girlfriend they were cute and had more chemistry.

This is so uncharitable, anon. 😡

They ALL looked messes by the end, and I’ll grant you the pee thing, lol, but anger? Especially for her background and these circumstances? Lots of them had their moments of anger, whole episodes, and by the end she was so chill. And dentures? People, even when young, can sometimes need them. There’s no need to make them even more self-conscious. And the shaved head was like, in a few scenes off the island and is just a style choice…

I feel like these are some very subjective biases you have, anon, and are stating them as general and factual. As with other recent discussions, you don’t have to like them or be attracted to them, you just have to buy that other people, including these two characters on a deserted island, would.

I did like the previous girlfriend, though! But the relationship was specifically written that way to be like, a one-ep backstory. If it was going to be a main thing, it would be written differently.

December 12, 2020

Hey, I’m thinking of watching The Wilds but I feel like it’s gonna be really heavy. Can you tell me if it’s like really intense or a little more light hearted and easy to watch? Thanks!

Uh, it can be light hearted at times but each ep goes into a different girl’s backstory and they can be pretty rough, aside from what is also happening on the island. You start off with a 16 year old’s affair with this published famous author and a girl on the island dying and that kind of sets the tone. The rest of the eps can be tough to watch, especially because the premise itself is pretty cruel, but eps 8 and 9 personally were consecutive punches in the stomach, again referring to underage stuff to other characters and…I don’t know how much to spoil, but hard to watch in their own way.

December 12, 2020

I watched an interview from the blonde actress(The Wilds) talking about her approach to her character and the words she chose to describe her role made me think hmm gay. So glad I’m right. I don’t watch trailers and was going to watch anyway, but I’m still happy I was right!

Heh, yeah, it was pretty obvious from just the promo, Toni was revealed to be gay off the bat and then a bunch more clips were her and Shelby. I kind of like how clear that was, even as something technically revealed late in the season, where two of the central characters are written for that from the start.

December 11, 2020

I’m not really sure how Maya and Carina’s relationship “grew” this episode but the Maya and Andy scene in the equipment room was all kinds of good. Danielle is killing that storyline and as much as I want Maya/Carina I am so happy that Maya is healing. That last scene was solid too. S3 Maya wouldn’t have listened, she would’ve continued to try and pick a fight. So i guess that’s growth.

Oh, that’s a good point! She did indeed simply apologize, so that was something. And I did definitely like the scene with Andy, I remember in s1 when it was Andy just spilling all her troubles while Maya was just there to listen, it’s nice that Andy can do that for Maya too.

December 11, 2020

I like the fact that Carina didn’t reply with an ”I love you” back. I know she said it in 3×16 but her not saying it now maybe shows that they aren’t still in an ideal place in their relationship.

Oh, hmm, I didn’t really take that as a sign of anything, it just seemed like a quick thing Maya is trying to get into the habit of saying? Part of her making an effort? The awkwardness with the hand and just the way she blurted it out made it seem like it didn’t come easily but I actually really liked it. And Carina seemed to think the same, I think she realized it was a thing Maya was saying to her and not necessarily anything deeper that needed to be reciprocated.

December 11, 2020

I liked that Maya spoke so frankly about her feelings but I wanted to see her speak to Carina about those feelings too…

Definitely! If the one way Carina is getting screentime is with Maya, why not give a bit of that story to her? Or have all three talk together, since Andy’s living with them?

Like, it can be interesting, where Maya’s so afraid to turn into her dad with Carina and is afraid to talk to her about it, doesn’t want to scare her off, and goes to Andy instead, and then as soon as she gets home and one small thing doesn’t go her way, she does get (a little) mad, like that’s an interesting coherent story! But then to not see the aftermath of that explored with Carina, then that feels like the arc’s incomplete, right. Carina shouldn’t need that whole explanation for why the kitchen’s like that, they both deserve to be able to talk out why Maya acted like that in the first place.