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February 2, 2019

There’s a part of me who’s kind of happy about the angst that is about to come – the issue of trust between V/J regarding Jacobo. It can either go with: V confronting J about whether Jacobo’s her dad. If J says yes, then 1) V freaks out, J is hurt from implication that she’s bad person, J moves to CR, Jacobo comes clean, V spends time winning J back. OR: 2) confront Jacobo together as a team, not quite back together but sneaking heart eyes; fix soul jumping, fix relationship – time jump- END

Tbh, yeah, as long as there’s a solid amount of plot-based angst, you would hope that would save them from sudden, extreme drama-injecting twists. It’s crazy that they’re managing to repeatedly shock us by doing the most straightforward thing.

I don’t really see how winning Juls back will happen if she’s in Costa Rica? There’s just so much plot that needs to happen here. The cartel people coming to take care of Chino need to be handled in some way first and then the reveals have to start.

Lupe and Juls need to find out Jacobo isn’t Chino and Beltran is, Beltran’s family needs to find out his stuff, the Carvajals need to find out Jacobo is Leon and also that Lucia is super shady and Eva is having an affair with Alacran and then probably Lucia will get some kind of redemption and maybe Jacobo and Johnny and a few others will die. That’s a lot of plot to also stuff in a move to Costa Rica and all the peripheral stuff with Mateo and Panchito and Sergio and Renata’s hanger-on and Mayela.

And another anon:

Bruh this telenovela’s got me second guessing everything. On one hand I think Juls is going to lie to Val cause Drama, on the other hand I think Juls is gonna tell her everything Lupita and Jacobo have been trying to convince her of and then they’ll try to figure shit out together. But they just keep throwing curve balls at us wtf i don’t even know anymore

I’m not even guessing anymore, what happens will happen. “Oh, Juls would never go to the house.” “I don’t know if Mateo will tell Val, she might never find out Juls was outside.” “They won’t talk again soon because the revelations about their fathers need to be kept for later.” I’m out of the guessing game!

And another anon:

Im highkey ready to throw some god damn hands if they keep making valentina cry for another goddamn week yall!!

Sometimes it almost feels like Juliantina are in a different soap from everyone else, they’re being treated so much more rationally and naturally and realistically. Val is clearly suffering from her experience, meanwhile Lucia’s on her fifth kidnapping of the month and so nonchalant about it. I don’t think it’s going to get any easier for our girl, all these experiences would have happened just a day or two ago for her by the time we roll into next week. And, well, some really tough reveals and events are ahead for her.

February 2, 2019

But the Jacobo is her father is gonna pushes them away more. This is gonna make juliana leave to Costa Rica.

And another anon:

For a second, while Val’s was having panic attacks and freaking out about not feeling safe,I thought “they gonna send this bitch to Costa Rica to be safe and she’s gonna run into juls and live happily ever after I just know it” asfgjdsd

Do you really think anyone’s going to Costa Rica at this point? We got like 22 eps left and soooo much plot to cover, I cannot believe that they would send anyone away, let alone people instrumental to the main story.

February 2, 2019

I cant believe we spent eons agonizing over who would tell val that juls was there and homegirl calls her and tells val herself T_T ….i really can’t predict anything with this show. Writers keep surprising me at every turn !! My mother did not prepare me for telenovas !!

They’re just breaking ALL the rules of TV here?? There is no show I’ve ever watched where things are so direct, let alone telenovelas.

February 2, 2019

i haven’t watched the new clips but i can’t remember have juliana and mateo met before? does juliana know mateo was the one who helped during lupe’s kidnapping? and does mateo know juliana is the girl val was with? (i stan mateo for standing up against Eva’s homophobic sht) i just want them to be friends!! hahaha

They haven’t, not really. They saw each other at Guille’s party but I’m pretty sure neither really noticed each other, plus, Juls looked very different. I don’t think even Eva really recognized her, and they actually spoke.

And since they don’t know the other by face, I don’t think they actually know each other’s name, even if Val talked to the other and said Mateo helped me or thanks for helping me with Juls.

And another anon:

I want Mateo to go check on Valentina and then mateo: “how’s Juliana?” Val: “we haven’t spoken” Mateo: “but…She was out there with me during the shoot off with the police. She didn’t come see you?” Val: ???‍♀️?❤️

I think literally all of us watching and seeing Mateo talking to the cops while Val was sitting in the back were screaming for something like that, but I don’t actually know if it’ll happen? On the one hand, surely there was a reason for the two to meet outside like that, but on the other, damn this central plot, while it’s great that we saw Juls show up (and prove to the viewers who didn’t see enough of her perspective) so worried, maybe it was to get her to see El Chino. I don’t know for how long it’ll be relevant that Juls was outside too, once the Jacobo connection comes out, even that might be cast under suspicion. 😡

February 2, 2019

Praise the amar a muerte writes. I’m not sure if they know what they’re doing but as hell that it works.

That is…the biggest question to me. If they just stumbled on this? I mean, we can see the results of a LOT of good intentions on their part, that’s definitely on them, how central they are, how much the story favors and supports them, the number of good tropes they get and bad tropes they don’t. But if it’s this easy…why can’t anybody else do it?

It’s not just that it’s a telenovela and thus allowed to lean into romance and over the top tropes that other genres refuse to, because other telenovelas don’t do this either. Across the world, shows like this exist and they haven’t been able to do this.

And another anon:

Organic. Is the word Maca always used to describe juliantina’s relationship on Interviews. That word means natural. And i can’t stop thinking how accurate that is. Even the angst feels like that. Like there’s nothing rush or push to feel a plot. Every part of them as characters and the relationship works. Interesting. There’s really few ships that work like that.

Absolutely. I’ve been using that word to mainly describe their interactions, how realistic and natural they come across, the laughter, the touches. But the flow of the relationship has been just as natural. Even this latest conflict is about as in-character as it could have been, in a series where regular kidnappings and affairs and body-switching are the norm and a genre where everyone’s going to be hurt and unhappy in these last few weeks as we build to the end.

And another anon:

Hi, I wish the writers, producers, etc for julaintina also got the kudos they deserve for bringing this beautiful story into being in the first place. I mean the actresses should always get their fair share of attention since for the general public they are the face of the ship, but I really really appreciate the thought process & courage to conceive the storyline.

They do, they really do. It’s easy to understand why the actresses get so much love, deservedly so, they bring a lot to this and are the face of the ship, but a lot of the great parts of this ship have been in the actual treatment of it. The dialogue, the kind of scenes they get, the focus. And the directors and editors have really helped everything show at its best.

February 1, 2019

In reference to your Ek Ladki post. I mean were we really expecting to have an all out wlw film? Hoping, yes. Expecting? We aren’t there yet unfortunately. Having a male driven film is another bag of marbles if we start talking about that in reference to South Asian culture and norms. It’s good to have expectations and be critical though. ELKDTAL is atleast a foot in the door of positive representation and subject matter.

Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. I just expected a bit more of them.

Lol, I just deleted a whole para about what I would have wanted more of even within its environment. It is what it is, and what it is is something new and important. My hype is somewhat dampened but I’ll still try to see it as soon as I can.

February 1, 2019

So you ever stop and think that Televisa didnt think Juliantina would be a big deal but so many parts of their story is told with a delicate touch? Like i just want to know who said “lets have Juliana run around while shots are being fired and have some get shot RIGHT in front of her but do not have her get shot” and who said “ lets have Valentina answer the phone because she would risk it all for Juliana” like whoooo is responsible!?!?

Honestly, that’s all I can think about! Those are just the latest examples in a really long sequence of surprisingly great decisions.

I cannot stop wondering what went into making this and why it’s so different from all our other stories. What did they bring to this that almost all other creators have had such a hard time replicating? Especially for being a ship in an environment where it’s so new and where it as finished taping before it hit it big so there can be no question of changing the storyline in response to the attention?

They just really said, we’re going to make these two pivotal characters both women, and it’s not going to affect their place in the storyline, but it IS going to affect how their story is told. How rare is that? How often do we get that, if ever? There’s no doubt it’s so much gentler and kinder than so many other telenovela couples. They chose not to go with so many normal telenovela tropes, let alone all our terrible f/f ones. They want to talk? They talk things through. Val should break up with Lucho? She does. Silvina tells Juls she’s not good for Val? Juls straight up tells Val.

I am just so curious how they did this. I did get a couple new followers because of this pairing but for those who’ve followed me for a while, I’ve seen soooo many f/f couples over the years and have developed a habit of looking at their treatment and what makes them effective. Central characters, woven into the main plot, screentime, interesting dynamic, chemistry, etc, etc.

There’s a reason fandom tends to gravitate toward big subtext ships like Faberry, Supercorp, Swan Queen and why Clexa and Shoot took off as they did. People value the story as much as they do the romance. And yet, lol, looking at the treatment of most of our big canon ships, something goes wrong, right? The creators weren’t looking at things the way we were.

Telenovela and soap ships are thriving right now because they’re to give screentime and focus that regular shows can’t, but they still hold the same biases and adherence to tropes everyone else does. Deaths and babies and the insertion of men? We still get those again and again. Is it an actual lack of research and context that’s worked out so well here? Did they not see how often drama’s injected into our stories through those tired old tropes? It’s one thing to say, we’re going to approach this differently and not be influenced by…every single thing we’ve learned in the world through society and culture, and then a whole ‘nother to actually do it.

I suppose that’s why the tension is mounting in these last weeks through the fandom. The routine’s been perfect so far, just gotta stick that landing now.

February 1, 2019

Oh no what’d you hear about the execution of ek ladki?

That it focuses way too much on the men and the f/f plot is sidelined.

February 1, 2019

Do you happen to know if anyone has uploaded this interview with English subtitle? It’s this one www(.)youtube(.)com/watch?v=4uDoDyXVx9k Thank you in advance!

Oh, lmao, this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uDoDyXVx9k

Someone linked it to me and we laughed and laughed. The whole time there’s this serious round table convo and behind Maca’s head on the huge screen a few of their pivotal scenes were playing on a loop, but none so often as the pool kiss. At one point they even made it seem like she was on a video conference with the kiss, just so they could include it more clearly.

I don’t think I ever saw an English subtitled version of this one, anyone know if there’s one available?