Hmm, I assumed everyone knew about Lucia’s past, but the rest was just suspicion. It’s actually interesting, even if she’d been wrong, she would have still had those suspicions of Lucia as a gold digger so I wonder how things would have turned out if Leon hadn’t been killed… For the Carvajals, for Juliantina…
maybe rana will die in her wedding because her soul will transmigrate to another body
Hah! That would be a turn. Into whose body, though? That is the question.
ok. im the one that said yesterday im fine with them killing Rana… mostly bc i hate the whole show. They disappointed me since Kate seduced a guy. This whole fiasco makes it possible for me turning it off completely. TBH But that last anon.. im sorry. what a jerk. even if im ok with it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt other ppl or that i would put someone else’s feelings down about it. so rude
Ah, it’s fine. That person was quite beyond, your ask had nothing to do with that.
And another anon:
Kana are getting married and flying away to Thailand for their honeymoon to never come back, that’s my take. But really, when are they gonna understand that representation really fucking matters? And it sucks you have to deal with some rude as fuck anons lately =/
That’s the perfect end for them. Just go around adventuring and then settle down somewhere when they’re ready.
I don’t really know when people will understand. One of the more hurtful things about this was that Bhavna did do her research with the Naz and Matt Foundation and she and Faye seem to understand that this is important, just not how or why?
They probably just see some pieces of the whole thing, that it’s valuable for people to see themselves and for others to see them, but they don’t understand how for many this is the only way see that reflection. Not just in media, not just in soaps or British TV, but in any part of their lives. From their parents to books used to learn how to read to commercials to their teachers and friends’ families and Disney movies and cartoons and YA litierature and so on. Bhavna and Faye and more importantly, the writers, can’t even comprehend the magnitude of that lack. To them this is the one story ending, but they don’t know that we have so little else to replace it.
And another anon:
I think in regards to killing Rana, it is a symptom of a larger problem. Yes, people get killed off soaps all the time but when a straight white character dies there are countless other characters to fill that void. When a queer character or a character of color is killed there is not usually another character to fill that void. Until the number of lgbtq characters come close to the number hetero characters (or at least close to the real world ratio) this will continue to be an issue.
Yeah, I kind of sighed at seeing this, not because you sent it, anon, but because I was hoping we could leave these discussions in 2016, when we had them again and again and again. We have the list of reasons why fine tuned now, first media deliberately killed us off, once it was allowed it was comedy relief or male gazey stuff, we have so few examples in real life to look to, good rep normalizes while bad rep actively harms, as you said, rep is so rare that once it goes bad nothing is there to replace it, etc.
Most professional media not written by apathetic morons has learned some kind of lesson from 2016. Those who haven’t, well, what can say about apathetic morons?
Imagine being so triggered that they’re killing off a character in a soap lmao you do realise it’s a SOAP and they try and be as dramatic as is humanely possible watch a rom com for a happy ending, you’ll never get it on a soap –
Which romcom’s that, buddy?
what happened to the aam cast? you said something about claudia was taking it like a champ?
Oh, they’ve just had to continue to face scrutiny for the awards.
For example, Raquel Garza, who played Barbara, the #1 Juliantina shipper, had to face this tweet from a radio host (who incidentally interviewed Barb and Maca some weeks back and was nice to them) the very actual night of the awards. She saw it and responded in a super classy way but imagine not even getting a day to enjoy it without people saying you didn’t deserve it.

Like others have, Maxine specifically also brought up Patricio Wills, founder of W Studios (that made AAM) and recently appointed president of Televisa and she essentially claimed that these awards were him rewarding his company. This was a particularly tenacious rumor and Claudia was asked about it personally.
At around 4:40, the interviewer brings up Wills and questions the credibility of the awards now, can it be a coincidence that his company received so many awards, how does Claudia think that’ll affect the popularity of the awards.
Claudia: Look, I think the awards have always been inside the company, and they always award Televisa’s projects, right? That’s what happened in this case. I repeat, I saw Juliantina fans being very active, it’s a phenomenon even now that the telenovela has ended, every day there are so many tweets they send, and I believe…what happened is that they played a major part in us winning so many awards, it was their support.
Interviewer: Don’t you think there was some sort of corruption?
Claudia: I don’t see why. At the end of the day the telenovela did great in Univision, it did great here, and that’s it. If the voting had only been in Mexico maybe we would’t have had the same results, but they opened the voting to all countries, a lot of people from Spain voted, and Angelique, what can I say? She has a lot of fans from 15 years, she has a long career and she always wins her awards. Just saying.

After watching your ‘Proven Innocent’ gifsets, I remembered watching an episode of ‘Electric Dreams’ with Rachelle Lefevre where she plays Anna Paquin’s wife! The episode is called ‘Real Life’. I didn’t think I’d see her play another wlw but I’m really happy she has.
Ahhh, I remember that now! I’d totally forgotten.
Whew, I was actually super mad about that episode, lol. The end was so unearned and for the sake of being a shock twist more than it fit the story. It was just insulting, in a multitude of ways.
And the ep had been so good until then. She and Anna Paquin were quite good together.
Since you were a bit into kpop your thoughts on the recent scandals?
I don’t really know how they’d be of interest here? It’s not like there are different perspectives here, it’s pretty abhorrent from every side?
Hiya im the anon that asked u about Legacies on CW. so it turns out Penelope truly is an Ex With Feelings and that shit was soft™ but she also um,, just left,, so u probably dont have to keep watching it if she never comes back ?
Lol, I haven’t yet restarted the show, but I did hear all about that. I’m sorry about that, buddy. Now everyone’s trying to calculate the odds of her coming back, heh.
LOL. That last anon. i agree. But dont just kill off Rana.. blow up the whole street. The worst writers to ever do a show. I fell in love with Kana when the old producer (Kate Oates) decided to have a Muslim woman fall in love w her best friend. But ever since Kate O left, the new guy has ruined the show & their storyline by having lesbian Kate seduce a guy. Haha im just happy i dont have to watch Kana anymore. i wish Faye (Kate) would leave the show too. Then they could just leave in love
Bad producer stints are just part of the deal, like long-running comic titles/characters and crappy writers. I always knew there was an expiry date on Kana, I just didn’t think it’d happen like this.
And another anon:
Corrie killing off Rana doesn’t bother me like it might on some other show. Probably bc that show killing off ppl all the time & it’s just drama most of the time, hardly any soft sweet love stuff. i get that ppl want a good lesbian story but if you trying to find it on Corrie, you dumb. Even the hetero stories suck. Just my opinion
Whoever they kill off, it’s something else to kill off a Muslim lesbian. She’s not just a wlw character, though that’d be bad enough, given that even their high number of four at one point is certainly not close to parity, but she’s one of the only characters like this in the entire world. So many characters in fictional media existing in the world right now, hell, to ever existed, and she’s one of just a handful. You could say the only one to get this kind of development and screentime.
I don’t hold with your second point either. People wanting a good lesbian story did actually find that on Corrie, for a full year. It had its ups and downs but it was there, that’s why people got into them?
I’m no longer in a place where I allow f/f fans to blame themselves for when things go inevitably wrong. It’s not our fault we think every new writer trying their hand won’t be somehow both cruel AND tedious in doing the same old thing. That’s on them for being so ignorant and boring.
And another anon:
That last ask. Wow. Wooooooow. Imagine thinking it’s not a big deal that they kill off a queer Muslim woman. In this economy. It’s bad enough when they kill off lesbians/queer women in media Bc of the trope, but to kill off a WOC to top it off?? QWOC always get killed/written off and we are never replaced at the same rate as new white gay stories. And coming onto your page to share that take. Wow. Anyways if I don’t watch it it didn’t happen and Rana is alive & well.
Well, the last three asks actually, lol. Thank you, anon, for this ask, I was like, how are there three different people who not only think that but think I’m the person to share that with? Am the one who’s overreacting here? I’m not here to validate every single opinion, I’m literally just a fan.
Heh, you have the right idea! Gonna just before the wedding episode and consider that the end of the story.
And another anon:
Hi, different anon than the one before. In terms of the death of kana or what they should do with her character, having lived through the last couple years of representation I fully understand how some people believe that if you are going to get rid of a character, killing them is the worst way due to burying your gays, however I also understand how that anon feels avoiding any deaths isnt the best policy also. There is no great way to write off a character that some people will not agree with
I get what you’re saying but I didn’t even bother entertaining that ask because that’s an entirely different conversation that we weren’t having. I’m not talking about no LGBT character ever dying, I’m talking about this character, in this way. A Muslim lesbian who just recently came out and who has fought every step of the way to get here, dying on the day of her wedding to a woman? How can the damage there not be apparent?
I think anon was talking about the Emmy International (emmys for TV productions outside the US) where they have the best telenovela category.
@debnamcari said:
Nope, there is no Emmy Latino, there are Grammy Latinos.
And other anons:
About your anons: The International Emmys are awards for tv programs produced and aired outside USA and there’s a telenovela category. The Netflix thing: Televisa broke their deal with Netflix years ago to start their own streaming service (the really mediocre Blim), so now all their content (like AAM) goes to that site. There’s still novelas on Netflix, but most of all are from Telemundo/Caracol.
also, there’s no Latin Emmy… there’s an international Emmy award and it does have a best telenovela category but no Mexican telenovela has won and only one was nominated in like 10 years.
So basically this was in fact the biggest thing people could win for AAM or for any telenovela this year? Maybe that explains the drama that’s sprung up around it. I almost feel a little guilty for all the accusations the AAM actors and the production crew are having to field.
I don’t know how much clearer it could be, Juliantina has a large international fanbase that voted hard. Just because they didn’t see the surge in popularity doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. The accusations going from one thing to the next, corruption, fraud, nepotism, favoritism? And finally landing on the whiny “but one show shouldn’t win them alllll”. Well, the people who voted hard voted for that one show. What, fans of Juliantina and AAM should have been like, sorry, Claudia, Angelique already won so you’ll have to give yours up to someone from another show?
To be honest, I actually do think that it was very weird to only go by public voting for such a big award, it was absurd to not have a jury, but the voting system was known before and nobody objected. You can’t accuse people of cheating for following that system.
Regarding that Netflix thing, yes, I heard about that, but if Blim is failing, Netflix might have a chance? Or as someone else suggested, Amazon Prime?
