Oh, I mean, well, we know what happens in real life. But yeah, given that they could focus on whatever they wanted in this short early time in their youth, I see. I don’t mind het content on principle and I don’t really see how I could mind what happens in their actual lives, but it does feel a bit bait and switchy for the rest of this season given the promo focusing on those early eps.
It must be a generational thing because I watched dark fate and apart from 1 line I thought it was very very subtexty and enough to argue for a ‘no proof it isn’t romantic’ line of logic. But I’ve grown up on subtext and feel like Xena is canon even though it isn’t lol and so many younger people need explicit canon or else it doesn’t count. Also I really liked the movie outside of any shipping.
I just got back from watching it myself so I can finally comment!
Oh, for sure, it COULD be romantic, but it also definitely wasn’t intentionally so either. It’s not so bad, I think, that we’re getting to the point where people can have higher expectations. Those of use who are used to so little feel the victories more, but I wouldn’t wish the desert in between those oases for the younger generations just to be able to appreciate more.
I gotta say, there were quite a few changes from the trailer and a scene here and there where even though we didn’t have the trailer to compare, they felt so abrupt, I really did wonder if it’d been changed/shortened. And that was what disappointed me, like, if they’d left it as the subtextier versions, it’s not as if they’d have lost any plausible deniability or money. They weren’t going to go there anyway, what’d they gain from removing even this? It didn’t make the scenes better, in fact, it looked weirder, kind of rushed.
But yes, I did enjoy it for what it was. I think it could have been better, some choices here and there just on a technical level that could have been different, but the characters and actors were great and some great action sequences. It was actually Linda Hamilton I came out being most impressed by, and now I want to make a million parallel gifsets, but I’d love a sequel with more of Grace and Dani.
I watch the last terminator movie. i am so disappointed, there is no romance or anything else about grace and dani. maybe it is my fault because i believe there will be a romance between these two.
Aw, I’m sorry, buddy. Yeah, I dialed my expectations way back. In fact, I hear that even some of the more subtexty shots from the trailer weren’t in the movie or they used a different cut. It’s definitely disappointing because it’s SUCH an obvious redo of the first movie, there’s no reason to not go there all the way except…you know.
We’re in such a strange time where people act like we’ve achieved all these milestones and if we celebrate an actually new one or say we want more, they’re like, uh, it’s normal now, why do you have to call attention to it or how much more do you want. But we’re not getting that much! And every time you think, it’d be so perfect here, maybe there’s a chance it’ll happen, look at the strides we’ve made, and then you realize, no, they’re not gonna got here for Elsa or Terminator or even SC.
We’ve made a lot of progress but we’re still lagging so far behind. I remember the older days in f/f when it was mostly subtext and fan driven content, and that’s why I’m still going to enjoy this for what it is, but I’m sorry you couldn’t. Maybe it’s cool that we’ve come to a point where our expectations and standards are higher? But I’m sorry we raised your hopes to the point where you were so disappointed, anon.
Hailee said all ten eps
Oh, man. That’s a whole ton of TV to watch, presuming the other Apple TV shows drop their full seasons too.
Thanks!
SPOILER ALERT. I had the opportunity to see an advanced screening of two episodes of Dickinson and it in my opinion fully delivers with content.
Ooh, fancy! And awesome, that’s great to hear. I’m still torn between which show to focus on first, so much is being released tomorrow, but I think it’s gonna have to be Dickinson and Atypical first.
Does anyone know if it’s going to be all of Dickinson or just the first three eps? Seeing different things in different places.
Aneela interacting with people she loves compared to how she interacts with everyone else is so interesting. With her love ones there’s this gentleness and absolute adoration. That is all contrasted nicely with how alien she comes off when she interacts with characters that are not Dutch, Kendry, and Jaq. Also I want to get your take on Aneela’s relationship with Khlyen. I found it a bit weird that the two of them never interacted in the present outside of those episodes in the green.
There’s a MASSIVE difference, you can see it just in the way she treats Kendry before and after really allowing her in. She was condescendingly polite to her when she first came on board but that was a courtesy she was extending to her father’s acquaintance but when it came down to it, in the queens rise showdown, she clearly didn’t think much of her. But then Delle Seyah surprised her and frankly, impressed her, and in that same bedroom later on they had the tether convo, completely different in every way. Much more equal.
Alien really is the word for it, she’s so unpredictably and oddly written, it’s amazing honestly, to see a character like her, and one who was written consistently for over three seasons without removing that edge and making her more human. That brief moment with even Dutch in ep 5×09 where Dutch said something about Khlyen and Aneela was like, Papa only ever fought for us! and it was shocking in its sudden intensity and a reminder, this is still the same Aneela underneath that new domesticity, there’s always that menace and possibility of violence. Even now that she has her family around her and is free from the Lady, she will never be like a human, she just doesn’t have it in her to process and react to things the same way.
Ah, mannn, Khlyen and Aneela. Including that moment above, it’s so complicated, so far to travel to even get to a place from where they can begin to recover something and I think something they just decided they couldn’t really do justice to in the time they had left? Like no way would it just be a hug and that’s it, despite what Aneela thinks, Khlyen owes her a million apologies and so much making up. And yet, as Aneela was influenced by the Hullen virus, so was he, his initial intentions as a Qreshi human weren’t worse than anybody else’s, and then a bunch of terrible circumstances befell the Kin Rits. And if it hadn’t been for some of his actions, they wouldn’t have landed on this eventual happy ending, centuries later. How much do you separate his terrible, terrible actions from being a Hullen? Tearing baby Dutch away, raising her like that in complete opposition to what Aneela wanted, making Aneela feel so less than in the first place. We saw what the virus did to Johnny and forgave him pretty quickly but that’s easy to do when he was only Hullen for a few eps and everyone around him forgave him. We saw the longterm consequences of Khlyen’s treatment on our actual lead character, Dutch, Aneela’s proxy of sorts, and she did call him out. So Aneela should get to as well?
I’m gonna be straight up, there were a number of choices in season 5 I didn’t really get. Obviously if they couldn’t handle their reunion in the last ep, especially when that’s when Dutch had her own big meaningful moment with him, then maybe don’t leave it for then? But I’m assuming that some budget and plot decisions kind of forced them in certain directions and then they couldn’t have certain things happen. Like, unless Yalena, Aneela’s mom, was going to be involved in the final showdown, there’s no actual reason for her to show up or for them to rescue her before everything’s fixed, so yeah, as awesome as it would have had been to have her there earlier, it kind of did make sense that she’d have to be left for the epilogue (still would have loved to see the reunion!). And while I think the prison setting locked them into a weirdly narrow focus, I don’t think that’s what necessarily forced Aneela and Delle Seyah away from the main plot for eps at a time, I think that was just a budget and time thing with HJK and possibly even Mayko, since H&R has been seemingly airing non-stop since spring. But once you took them out the main plot, then it wouldn’t really make sense for them to have big climactic scenes earlier in the season. If Aneela and Khlyen did meet and somehow work through everything, you don’t have the rest of Khlyen’s plot with the Lady or even Dutch would work out in the same way.
i don’t know if you’ve seen, but Mayko Nguyen is in the new titans series as the mother of chella man’s jericho, and there’s a very sweet scene where she asks him if he’s going to meet a boyfriend or a girlfriend and it made me smile, and thought you’d like to know, even if the show isn’t your thing!
Anon, I did see that! It was sooooo cuuuuute! Despite myself I’ve started to get caught up with the plot so I can make sense of Mayko’s parts, so I was like awwww and then oh no and then ohhhh nooooo.
And let’s not get into how I was like, that could have been an interaction between Delle Seyah and Jaq, she’d totally have gently teased him about the very same thing! As she then would spy on and possibly threaten those selfsame kids but perhaps that would have helped here. >_>
did u watch the original L word and will you be checking out the reboot? i’m so over reboots but I do have patience for them when they include the original cast
Yeah, I getcha, when they include the original cast it feels like a real continuation and it can be really interesting to see what the characters were up to in the meantime. And it feels like a sign of respect and consideration to keep what people liked about the original. And I think I don’t even hate them on principle when they don’t include the original cast, we get some cool takes in there, like ODAAT.
Having said all that, I did not watch the original L Word and will probably not be checking out the new version. It’s just…so much…drama. Heh. I prefer an overarching plot?
have you seen the trailer for portrait of a lady on fire? it’s a lesbian love story! also its french and it has a lesbian director and one of the leads is a lesbian too! figured it might be right up your alley :)
I have! Actually, someone I follow, @morningmightcomebyaccident, is really into it too, so I see a lot from her. Its pedigree looks legit amazing!
I’m sure anons have messaged you about Impulse, it’s a YouTube original. But there’s a character named Jenna and it’s honestly one of the best gradual coming out I’ve seen in a long time on my screen. Like it takes its time, it’s great. The show is also good, so that’s a double win lol
They have not, anon! Clearly you are the superior anon. 😛
I have heard of it, though! Just a little, and that it has f/f, so it’s on my radar for sure. s2 recently coming out has actually moved it up my list, I’ll try to get to it soon.