Hey! Appreciate all that you do! The bits you’ve posted about Nancy Drew made me interested enough to start watching. You said before you don’t like a lot of choices Nancy Drew is doing, I’ve never read the books is the characterization really off?

Oh, heh, I said that after the first one or two eps? It’s drastically different in tone, which kind of carries into everything else? It’s just a different piece of media altogether. 

In the books, Carson Drew is a well-respected and successful lawyer, Nancy’s mom died when she was young but her dad and the housekeeper Hannah Gruen raised her as a loved, well-adjusted, well-liked kid. Bess is a bit overweight, a bit timid but very nice, George is increasingly tomboyish over the decades the series continued, her hair getting shorter and shorter and very recent adaptations have straight up made her into a lesbian. The Sarah Shahi adaptation CBS didn’t pick up a few years back because it was “too female” had Vanessa Ferlito playing George as a lesbian too. 

You can see some of that in this show, right? Bess is still the scaredy cat, George is tough, Nancy is Nancy. But the books had the conflict coming from outside. They were already such a well-oiled unit, who loved and trusted each other, it was just a different kind of plot when the drama didn’t need to rely on friction between the main characters. And you could say this is an origin story, they’ll end up becoming the trio, but I don’t think they ever really can? This show? It will always need to rely on interpersonal drama. It was an interesting move to start Nancy/Nick as an established couple but they’re still gonna give them jealousy and random other relationship drama and break them up. Bess and George were cousins in the books, but really, they just all genuinely liked each other so much.

But anyway, back after the first eps, I think what I didn’t care for was that George wasn’t gay, that she didn’t seem particularly tomboyish, in fact, their, what, subversion of the tomboy into the girl who had a reputation for sleeping around and having an actual affair with an older man, like haha, how unexpected, she’s THAT straight! Bess isn’t overweight. I don’t remember any Ace in the books. Why is there this guy in the middle of the trio? 

Some changes, you can consider kind of cosmetic, in that they don’t change anything crucial or make things interesting, like, they’re all working together now (in the books they tended to kind of be on eternal break but always having money, or one of them would be working at a place where suddenly there was Crime and Nancy would have to investigate), people don’t like them, the supernatural thing is interesting, not sure about Bess as a homeless kleptomaniac, but okay. Everyone having secrets now and this tortured past, like, it changes things but for a TV show, it helps. 

I’m taking it mostly on its own merits now and the main thing that annoys me is the drama sometimes feels forced but some of the things they changed, from a couple of paragraphs above, those were arbitrary and more conservative than the original. And tbh, the fact that it’s so hard for these three girls to get along, that’s not particularly bold either. As a whole I guess I enjoy it, I like the casting and it’s ambitious, at least. Or kinda, I mean, going along the same lines as Riverdale and Netflix Sabrina and Charmed season 2 seems more of an alignment to a formula someone thinks is working than it is about trying new things. But you know what I mean, heh.

What is Gold Digger like as a whole show? My first impression of it was bad title, insulting story to have an older woman with an older man who then obviously has to be a creep and after her money. But that’s just my impression, is there more to it than that? I used to really like Jemima then she stopped being on tv as much, so I’m intrigued to see from your posts she plays a wlw(/lesbian?) character lol.

It’s about Julia Ormond, total hottie, from the Sabrina remake, Legends of the Fall, First Knight, and if y’all recall, her character turned out to be bi in Witches of East End, as a recently divorced older woman and Ben Barnes, who I guess played Prince Caspian in the Narnia movies, as the younger guy into her. Her adult kids (who are all still younger than him!) are immediately suspicious of him and think he’s a gold digger. That’s the plot.

The show is written by the lady who wrote that miniseries, Thirteen, where Jodie Comer plays that girl who’s just escaped from having been abducted for 13 years? It’s one of those soapy thrillers, each ep you discover new things and distrust a new person, there’s a secret that hangs over the family but you also have the mystery of whether or not the guy is really a gold digger. A bit of a spoiler, but it’s a surprisingly positive ending all around, take that as you will.

And yeah, Jemima used to be in a fair number of things from a pretty young age. I guess she’s taken a break here and there, looking at her IMDB. Been pretty busy lately again, so that’s nice, and returning to her Hex roots! She does play the wlw daughter  here, who mostly is on her mom’s side, but is easily swayed by her brothers. Each ep of the series focuses on a different person, although with a large chunk of time spent on the Julia Ormond and Ben Barnes characters (whose names are Julia and Benjamin for some reason), so the first ep is on Julia’s oldest son, the second is on Jemima’s character, and so on. 

do you know the indian webserie ” just a another love story”? it is pretty cool

I believe it’s Nepali? Here’s the link in case anyone’s interested:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkplo-21fDtzmygkbhkeO4lUeP2eAo4K9

I have been keeping track of it, but I’m sorry, I don’t really have the most positive feelings about it at the moment. I was pretty excited from the trailer, but I did not love how things went down in the first ep. 

SPOILERS FOR THE FIRST EP:

I really did not like how a big deal was made of how drunk Amara was and Maya herself continuing to point that out and highlight how gullible and impressionable she was in that state and keeping her away from guys and then…sleeping with her? Yes, Amara kissed her first, but wen someone else is a lot more drunk than you, it’s still kind of on you to stop it. 

I had heard that it got better from that but it was tough for me to keep my level of excitement after that. I’m still downloading the eps and will catch up at some point, this is such a big first and so significant and there were so many cute moments and Juliantina and Jathea similarities in the trailer.

Ngl I started watching nancy drew to get a taste of leah lewis’ acting in anticipation for the half of it and ended up loving her and watching nancy drew regularly. the only downside is now waiting for netflix to finally release the half of it is even more torture

Yeah, you can already see the snarky but responsible teen in her. 

@morningmightcomebyaccident went to a Saving Face screening over the weekend and the leading ladies were there but not Alice Wu, apparently because she was working on The Half of It! Not long now.