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My doubts that Juliana was not Chino’s daughter is over. Panchito said that Lupe and him never actually did more than kissing back in their younger years

Oh, right, that little mystery had been percolating for a bit. It does help to know for sure, now, since the whole father-daughter thing is going to be huge in the next weeks for both our girls.

Makes his treatment of her even worse, not that wasn’t terrible already, but that even that little thing is some made up offense in his mind. I wonder how it’ll affect future storylines, in that, will they get a chance to have a real father-daughter talk and sort out some things? I don’t really expect Chino to survive the show but I really have no idea what will happen. And while we’ve all talked about Lupe’s POTENTIAL reaction to Juls coming out, what will Chino?

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Did you notice Chivis greeting Juls?? Did she finally get over being mad at Juls??? It’s probably the first time since their first meeting that she greeted her and she doesn’t sound irritated. Has Eva’s ‘No juliana allowed in any carvajal property’ been revoked or they just ignoring her now? And like, Val said yesterday that she’s scared to go out but she still went to Camilo’s office with Juls instead of asking him to come to her house. I cant believe we’re being fed this well by juliantina ?

They add so many teeny little details to make it better and richer.

At first I thought Juliana’s greeting was a bit passive aggressive like, hi, can’t ignore me or be mean to me in front of Val, but then Chivis was pretty nice to her back, so maybe the point was Chivis being nice because, as she’d said at the start of the little interaction, Val was doing a lot better, and well, the reason just said hi.

I’m pretty curious to know if the rule has been lifted or if people are ignoring it. It is kinda important with respect to how Val’s sister, one of the biggest obstacles to their relationship, feels about Juls, but since the thawing of that would be put on screen, we can only assume people are ignoring it. 

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Isn’t it possible that the writers actually wrote that couch scene at Camilo in such way and Maca was doing everything accordingly? I know she’s known for her tendency to improvise but perhaps we need to give the writers some credit too (unless of course there’s news somewhere that that scene really was all Maca’s improvisation). But either way, we so deserve them but we so don’t, we’re not ready. You know what I’m saying?

Oh, I absolutely do think the writers wrote in something. I could be wrong and whichever way it happened, full kudos to Maca because she executed it perfectly and to the editors and directors as well, but when you think about what actual new information was conveyed in that whole almost minute of staring, was there anything? They didn’t need to pad it out with all that, to be frank, mumbo jumbo. The point of that last bit was Val’s staring at Juls, flat out. 

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So apart that Val is a gay mess; others reasons why she could stop looking at juliana? She snuggles and remember Juls scene; which she loves. Juliana snuggles back; after they broke up is a big deal. Juliana is very polite to Camilo even if she didn’t believe her; and Val’s love that. Of course is because she is completely smitten but ok let me have this.

And another anon:

It was the head on her shoulder. Look she was trying to pay attention but since she put her head there she couldn’t stop looking at juliana. Even she kissed her own hand. Poor Val she is so smitten it hurts(in a good way).

Look, you can’t solve this level of gayness with your newfangled science and theories and the hows and the whys. It happened, all we can do is accept that the thirst of Valentina Carvajal is beyond our reckoning.