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The delete scene reminds me of the scene when lupe catches them and juls declares their love.? why did they delete it??

 I can only imagine for time, but it wasn’t even that long a scene! Just cut that many seconds off from something else? I keep on saying, out loud, wtf. It adds so much and the absence does nothing, it doesn’t make anything connect better. At least put it online?? 

What gets me is how many of us had headcanoned something so close to this, because it was building to it so clearly. So clearly that the lack of it was felt so intensely. And it was just so important to them, to finally have them decide to be together with everything out in the open, their families and the whole world knowing. They even had a reporter asking Val about the LGBT community, one of the very things we had speculated about!

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Cosmo’s stolen @justqueeerious’s job and just put out an actual Juliantina cover shoot.

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How can I ask a request? Your favorite Juliana’s not standing Val sad face

What a tough question, anon… I love them all. It is one of my absolutely favorite things in the show, that this tough girl who tries to put up so many walls and hide all vulnerability is not only so affected by Val’s sad face but openly shows it and immediately tries to make things better.

I guess my favorite would have to be the first one.

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I truly love hospital era and I have a soft spot for these eps, they were among the first I watched live. Everything seemed so fresh and nascent, both because it was new to me and because they themselves were in this maybe place, not together but had kissed, distracted by Lupe’s shooting but no longer to the point where it stopped further development.

And in that moment, when they weren’t even officially together, Juls could so easily have minimized what Val was upset about, that it was so minor, pretended it was at Val not getting her way, that she had every reason (excuse) to continue putting it off, her mom was still badly hurt, the narcos could come back, it wasn’t fair to ask her to talk about her feelings when Lucho still being around made it clear where Val stood.

But Juls simply couldn’t do that. She knew it wasn’t about Val not getting her way.

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Val was upset because it felt like Juls was dismissing her. And thus it was so unthinkable to Juls that Val feel even a little bit sad, she was willing to do the thing she was most afraid of, confront her feelings and lay them out in front of the person who could most hurt her, just to stop that look.

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why did Val ask Juliana if she enjoyed the sex with Sergio? was it because she had bad experience and didn’t feel anything and wanted to know if it was different for Juliana? or why would she ask such a question?

Oh, to me, there was some genuine curiosity in there in a petulant sort of way, like “oh, so was it worth it, huh, was it”, to needle Juls a bit and make her uncomfortable, but mostly? Raging jealousy. She wanted reassurance that Juls didn’t enjoy it.

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And for a split second getting that confirmation did affect her.

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Annnd then realized it wasn’t really making her feel better in the moment.

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I said jealousy and petulance and yeah, those are negative traits but Val feeling them and even acting on them doesn’t make her a bad person. It just makes her a person. She was understandably upset, acted like an upset person, and then like the super kind person she actually is and not at one point in time, took herself out the conversation:

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It’d have been forgivable if even that hadn’t happened, if she’d stewed for longer, not because Juls deserved it, but because Val was allowed it, but Val is Val.

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Piggy backing off that anon talking about the first kiss and then the awkward looking at each other cut, I’ve always been so confused by the Valle house scenes after Lucho/Sergio catch them. How do they go from the couch to Val drinking on the floor? Then, how on earth do they go from forming a pact and looking somewhat happy again to Val staring out a window mad and upset and drinking again?

Ah, that first anon brought up the kiss in reply to my tags on a post about them in Valle precisely BECAUSE I was like, how did this even come about?

I can understand the first moment, draw a clear connection between Val being worried, reassured by Juls on the sofa but eventually standing up and being like, I need a drink and then ending up where we see them next. That’s a a reasonable enough jump. But then we’re supposed to believe she does literally the same exact thing after being the one to reassure Juls? Why didn’t she just stay drinking seated where we first saw her? And how did her mood go down again so quickly? 

It’s not that I find it an impossibility, it’s just that it was an important part of the story and character and relationship we missed.

And another anon:

thank you for giffing angry val at valle for me. i know it isn’t the most fun of moments but overall i don’t think val gets that angry very often so it stood out to me. plus, that outfit was a+.

It was no problem! Hmm, when I think on it, my reluctance wasn’t so much that it was an uncomfortable moment, it’s because, like I said above, I just didn’t really connect with it in the same way I did other angry Val moments, like in the second kitchen scene or talking to Juls about Sergio or after the breakup when she was still a little miffed. 

It’s not that I can’t stand Val being angry at Juls, obviously I don’t love it, but I kind of like seeing that side of her and it’s not about her being right and Juls being wrong, the best writing is when both sides are understandable and justified, but that one bit did not particularly feel earned to me from the show. I got what they were going for, they actually handled the resolution of it quite well, it being clear it was far more about Val’s fears of being outed than how she felt about Juls, but they could have written more in. 

As always, the answer to every issue I’ve had with Juliantina is: more screentime! 😛

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Not sure all the details, but Juls DEFINITELY avoided eye contact. She probably just avoided everything. Like those phone calls where Val would say “Te quiero” and Juls would just be like “bye.” Haha.

Lol, y’all are so harsh on those moments! Half the time the moment was all wrong, and she’s just careful! A novice! You can’t expect her to be returning comments without some careful thought. And that last time, on the phone, the okay was so grateful, so heartfelt and moved! 

But yeah, she totally everything in that moment (after the pool kiss), she literally ran away while Val was gone for a second. Can’t deny that, heh.