angry-sushi / andreafloresgr shout out – angry-sushi’s got clips up to Episode 80 for ALL Juls and Val scenes now; thanks to andreafloresgr, Eng subs for Parts 1-2 (Eps 1-20) are up on YT/GD. As book anon, if on Android, I highly, highly recommend a little, localized app called Book Catalogue – can search/add via Amazon and Goodreads, add to custom bookshelves, local backup functionality – it’s temporarily not on Google Store, but it’s gonna be back very soon (GitHub, eleybourn, Book-Catalogue)!

Ahh, this is super late, but I actually was trying to save this for when Book Catalogue went back up on the Google Store. I’ve been checking periodically but haven’t seen it go back up yet. If you want it, you can get the apk from that link as we wait.

Oh, wow, I’d focused on the books part when I first read and totally missed that their were English subs for the earlier Juls and Val scenes! Shoutout and huge thank you to @angry-sushi and @andreafloresgr

If you want to watch the early solo Juls and Val scenes with English subshttps://angry-sushi.tumblr.com/juliantina

Lastly, the reason I decided to go ahead and answer this ask now, anon, is because I actually did end up making a goodreads account! At first I tried to add everything I could remember reading at any point but that honestly seems a bit of a lost cause. At the moment, I’m mostly using it as a to-read list instead of scattering random new books on gmail, my phone, or my desktop.

Do you remember the feeling you had when we watch juliantina for the first time? Their first kiss? Waiting for Mondays for the novela?

I do! I actually do vividly remember, probably in far more detail than you care to know, when I tried it for the first time–both times. Yepppp. Twice! The first time I got an ask about it, I did actually try it and at the time, it was just the not great wlext subs and it was of course the opening scene where Juls and Lupe walked past Val and Lucho arguing and I was like, hmm, maybe not.

It was a couple of WEEKS later that I tried again and I remember that day perfectly. It was at the very end of December, when a bunch of holidays string together and work is slow because so many people are out. And around this time every year, I binge through something I’ve been saving. In previous years it’d been Heartless and then Crownies + Janet King (the first season) and then Los Vecinos en Guerra. It’d just become something of a tradition to watch these very canon very satisfying f/f stories during that break.

This year, since New Year’s fell on a Tuesday, we didn’t get Monday off. So I was sitting there the Sunday before, trying to find something to do that wouldn’t take that long and then got the second ask about trying Juliantina and was like you know what, this actually could be perfect. I started the clips again, still wlext, though i would discover some hours later that zeroty had started their subbing, but by that point I’d already passed what they’d done.

I had no idea what those two were going to mean to me. I hadn’t seen any gifs, at the time it hadn’t really caught on in SM so I went in completely blind and god, how they gripped me! I was swept AWAY by the chemistry, by how natural their dynamic was, how romantic the slow burn ended up being. I remember wanting to gif so many things, millions of tiny little things as well as all the epic moments, but I just kept on watching. And then it was Monday and the show was back on again. I still would have started giffing from the beginning, but it was the Monday of the 41st ep, which as you might remember, hit a pretty significant milestone in their relationship.

Obviously I didn’t understand the dialogue, but immediately I knew the significance of them returning to the pool. You don’t do thematic callbacks for no reason. And then they stopped floating and stood up again, laughing and I was just soooo….aahhhhhhh. 

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Do you remember how long the buildup for that kiss was? How the laughter slowly drained away?

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How Juls pulled back?

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And it just went on forever 

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and ever! I didn’t even know if it’d happen or not, what with censorship at all. Would they get interrupted again? 

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Nope! This happened.

I wish I’d started watching earlier so I could have enjoyed the slow burn live, but I can’t help but love that was my intro to live viewing. Could you imagine not knowing this was coming? 

Man, that show took over my life. You’re absolutely right, anon, we used to actually look forward to Mondays. Eesh! And the fandom energy! Whan experience it was.

The kind of blog I am now, this is far more representative of how I usually am, flitting from one show to the next, with perhaps Harlots, Killjoys, The Expanse, Killing Eve, and at one time, Corrie, The Rich Man’s Daughter, and, lol, The Mentalist, being the few exceptions. But Juliantina was in a class of its own. And I know it feels right now as if I’ve moved on, and I definitely don’t want to let down the people who’re still heavily invested and who send me asks and would still like gifs, I just…tend to focus on the most recent thing. With the most genuine of intentions, I’ll sit down to do something for Juliantina and wind up doing something else completely. At this point, I don’t want to make promises I can’t keep, but I really, really do hope to get through as many of the Juliantina asks and gifsets as I can, alternating them with newer media. So bear with me on that, guys. 🙂

Perhaps the Arseholes reported the accounts (bc there were 5 accts that were obviously using IFTTT which is a business tool. But the max you can get is 100 per day) I noticed 3 of theirs doing the same. (GAGA fans are using these too.) Assuming there weren’t more.. they reported spam based on 200 tweets a day. However when you report something for spam.. you are reporting the # tags, so every account that uses those # a lot…. get suspended. (like mine even tho i had A fans blocked)

Yeah, they probably reported a bunch of tweets/accounts and it caught the tag, which punished everyone who used it.

This legitimately felt evil because twitter is a safe space for so many people. It’s a place they are allowed to be gay and can communicate with other gay people. To cut that off because of an MTV poll is just demonic flavored

To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it was just a few people, and maybe they only thought of it as a clever ploy in a poll war, not fully realizing the repercussions of people losing their accounts. Maybe. It is crossing a line and so unnecessary. Over a damn poll.

Is good to have the support people is giving the fandom right? Like is a shitty situation but still we are not alone. More and more people are showing to help. That’s kind of nice and never happen before to me

I know! That’s how I feel too! It’s a terrible situation but it’s been really heartwarming to see people, people in the public eye with those blue checkmarks who have nothing to gain and possibly something to lose from seeming to pick a side supporting us. This experience continues to be the wildest. 🙂

Is there any media outlet that covers fandom/geek culture that might be willing to write about this mess? That could help get it on the radar of MTV or make it harder for them to ignore.

I dunno, bud, there don’t seem to be many publications that take notice of fandom drama except to make fun of it, and there are even less who would look to see what’s going on in a foreign-based shipwar where the wronged party is f/f. 

Autostraddle might be the most likely to write about it but they don’t really hold much sway. The Mary Sue would have more but they’re so random with which angle they take, HuffPo is even more hit or miss. I don’t know about any of the others who’d pick this up.

Regardless, in the time since you’ve sent this, hours ago, some heroes have showed up. 

Kinda randomly (to me) Dana Piccoli tweeted!

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Like, fair point. These are accounts people have curated over years, and I’d feel like crap if I lost my Tumblr because I participated in something while following the rules.

Then, Maca showed up!

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I can’t help but adore that, seeing all these fans go crying to her and she’s like oh nooo, don’t worry, Mama’s gonna fix this. And she has seemed to call in whatever help she can. A few of her friends have tweeted, but best of all, my new favorite person, Andrea Escalona, one of the hosts on Hoy.

A whole bunch of tweets like this:

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But you’ll notice what she DOESN’T mention? Any other fandom. And yet, they flooded her with accusations.

Which was pretty awesome of her, lol, but has now made her a major target of them.

Anyway, that’s where we’ve landed at for now. I think another thing that would make it hard for this to get picked up by media is that we don’t actually know what happened. Exactly who got suspended, how many accounts, why? It does look super suspicious, though, how many of ours specifically got suspended and they’re provably not bots, they’re huge fandom accounts and small personal ones, like…it’s ridiculous to say these accounts were bots, and it’s ridiculous to say they were spamming when others have been doing exactly the same thing, or even better.

Here’s a more comprehensive list of the suspended accounts and their hopefully temporary replacements. Reading down the list, gosh, that’s a lot: https://twitter.com/altduraznito/status/1129074989947346945

Twitter voting

pero-me-encantas:

Hey.. if you are interested in setting up a Voting acct or if you have one that is not in use, that you’d be willing to let me use.. Let me know . 🙂   I am hoping to get about 100 people …  send me a DM (only if you’re a verified juliantina fan) Thanks. 

RT to share.  It will take 10 minutes to set up and you won’t have to give any personal information!!!   this is my voting page  @julianavieg if you want to check it out.

god i want future juliantina where they can just make eye contact across a room at some boring party juls knows val is telling her “stop biting your nails, mi amor”

Ugh, anon, the beauty in just this tiny moment you’ve painted.

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I LOVE how their immediate friendship imbued this domesticity in their dynamic from the very start. Along with that crackling chemistry and the banter, there was such a sense of taking care of the other. Juls cheering up Val on first meeting, Val picking up on Juls’s eyeing the burger stall, dragging Juls over, Juls sensing Val’s unease when she saw the flask. That was the first time they met! And it never stopped, that awareness of the other’s health and comfort.

I want alllll the domestic future Juliantina, anon. Do they host parties jointly now? Do they get invited together? Do they still enter arm in arm? Does Val still go breathless when she sees Juls all dressed up? (trick question; she does every time)