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looking at your asks ‘post-breakup’ scene, it’s nice to see the folks here being reasonable about why juls reacted the way that she did. i feel like most people, from what i’ve noticed on twitter, are so quick to anger and blame juls for her decision and are so focused on val’s perspective since the past few episodes were mainly about her outing and the repercussions of it that they completely forget to consider from juls’ point of view and how might these events effect her.

I wanted to answer this specifically after the previous ask, lol. They arrived almost together (that one first) and I just sat there for a bit, looking at them in bemusement.

“Reasonable” is maybe not the word I’d go for, I don’t want to apply that connotation either way, but yeah, I do support a more…balanced view? 

Maybe you have a point that the show’s been showing Val suffering very obvious bullying and already going two rounds with her sister and that affects how some viewers relate to them. This goes back to the other ask about praise for their acting, where what Val gets is more clearly spelled out compared to the more subtler quieter moments for Juls.

Because I think we’ve seen enough of Juls’s side of things too, leaving that worried voicemail, that scene with Lupe in bed that I’d even commented on for being noteworthy in its inclusion. It wasn’t a loud, dramatic scene, it was just very slowly and softly painful. Juls has been suffering throughout this. She doesn’t suggest a break for the fun of it, it’s constantly in the back of her mind. When the cop warned her, twice. When Lucho insulted her at school when Juls didn’t even want to go. When Val missed her classes for her. When Silvina warned her. When Silvina woke them up, when they had to avoid Eva, when Lucho attacked them, when Val wouldn’t accept her calls, when her mom told her they were from different worlds, when Eva freaking showed up at their house, when she wasn’t even allowed in the car, and when Val showed her the bullying messages on her phone. It was all building, we saw it building. 

This…this isn’t a criticism-free zone. I don’t think everything both of them do is perfect. I just don’t see the point of shipping characters if you don’t give both of them the benefit of sympathy and understanding.

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Juls was harsh to Val. Didn’t think about Vals feelings. Only thinking about herself and how her mom was going to react. I am dissapointed

That is not at all how I read it. She was thinking about Val more than anything else. 

Nothing’s changed regarding her mother, she could just continue to not tell her. There’s no reason to break up because of that. Juls only brought it up as a reason Val could accept, since “I’m doing it for you” would never fly.

The whole framing, of the previous episodes and this one and this specific conversation, are making it much more about Juls’s issues with her place in Val’s life and the disruption she’s causing to it than anything else. 

To put it simply, everyone around her, everyone who has any kind of remotely positive interest in Val or her, has said they won’t last, that she’s bringing trouble to Val. She just had Val’s sister show up and say she’s destroying Val’s life and then found out she couldn’t even get in the car. That. Would. Be. Mortifying. Would she want Val to go through that? For her? Tbh, I don’t think she’s actually correct in making this decision because it’s not up to her to make, it’s Val’s. But she thinks she’s not worth it. That’s the biggest tragedy here and the takeaway. That the people around them have put them in this position. 

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The “break up” (they weren’t even official yet lol) was totally in character coming from Juls. Remember all those episodes before that whenever someone questioned their closeness and how Val is innocent and good and was in danger with Juls, Juls always thought about stepping back so Val could have her normal life again. Detective Montilla, Silvina, Lucho, now Eva. too many people reminding Juls of the chaos she brings to Vals life

Exactly. Exactly! 

The whole world’s conspiring against them, she’s humiliated, she knows she’ll definitely cause a further rift between Val and Eva if she stays, Val’s life will be upended and she doesn’t even feel like she’s worth it. Not when people who love Val tell her she’s not enough, not when her own mom tells her she’s not enough, that a rich person like Val would inevitably tire of her. So to keep all this going when it’ll only hurt Val? Possibly even physically! Let’s not forget THAT side of things either.

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This is typical telenovela stuff. There’s only a handful of weeks left of the show, so we’re entering the third act. All the romantic pairings are broken up/under duress around this point, so that they can be reconciled as the conflict gets solved and live happily ever after. Plus, in one of those new interviews, Maca basically says they’ll be fine.

And another anon (or the same one? You guys need to start numbering these)

also about the break up… that Eva visit definitely spooked her lmao also, yesterday they had Lupe out here telling us Juls age so people gotta consider eva’s threat + age + this being her first relationship, like… ofc girlie was going to dip lol now we’ll probably see her going through it like we did Val but they’ll be okay in the end

Yeah, it all just piled up on her, it feels doomed, it feels like it’s hurting Val, how can they stand against everything and why would she even want to make Val stand against her own family?

And another anon:

while I’m upset about the argument, I get why it had to happen. also at least literally every couple in the show is currently on the rocks so, yay equality? basically this one’s probably gonna hurt a lot for them (and us) before it gets better, but it will. that’s telenovelas for you

Although Renata and Guille’s angst seems to come from…a cat. They stole the lesbian subplot. 😛

I’m totally fine with it. All ready getting that regressing Val angst and now Juls is gonna be overWROUGHT when the kidnapping happens.

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You think they’ll get back together?

Do you think they won’t?? Anon, that doesn’t even require telenovela expertise, that’s just normal TV. That’s like…if the suspect they catch in the middle of a detective procedural turns out to be the actual killer and not a red herring.

The big question is when and how. Honestly, I like how much actual weight there was behind it? It’s clearly hurting Val so much, and the last thing Juls would want is for Val to give up everything for her. The more weight behind the breakup, the better the reunion, because they can give them solid in-character, properly motivated writing throughout. With more forced angst it’s like, you didn’t need to be apart, so there’s nothing really significant to write to get them back together.