i was thinking and it must be even harder for Juliana and even Lupe to believe in Jacobo’s story since Leon is treating them exactly like El Chino. He is impatient with them, all conversations he has had with them since the beginning was full of him yelling at them and being completely insensitive. Leon/Jacobo is checking all the boxes of Chino’s behavior so a transmigration thing is already hard to swallow and combine that with his attitude with Juls and Lupe…
That’s true! Why do my poor Valdes girls always get treated like crap? I kind of like Jacobo, especially with Val (except for that one ep with Lucho) but he’s not been great to the Valdes women. Although I did find it endearing when Lupe got kidnapped and he felt so guilty and was tracking Juls so closely.
But yeah, face to face, he’s not been great to them, and really, Juls is so totally justified, who the hell would believe her lying dick of a father when he says “I’m someone else”. He would say that, wouldn’t he. After seemingly escaping from an execution?
Gonna answer a few other plotty questions here. Another anon asked:
Hi sorry I have a question, why doesn’t Leon just tell his family like how he told Camillo? Other than that we wouldn’t have a soap opera to watch if he did
Actually, at first Camilo advised him not to, but even after Camilo saw how the kids were suffering and that Val at least was open to the concept of all this, maybe he should, Leon’s still wanting to get revenge for his murder and just wants to keep everything a secret. It is a bit forced for the drama. But I imagine he also genuinely likes to move among his family and find out things he wouldn’t have and interact with them in a way he didn’t before.
And another anon:
How was Juls let back in the house after Eva banned her. Was this mentioned?
They didn’t mention it as far as I saw, I was really hoping that the Camilo-Eva talk would maybe push Eva to very reluctantly let Juls in to help her depressed sister, but nope. Probably at this time, if yesterday’s kidnap victim wants anything, the rest of the household is going to accommodate that.
And another anon:
I shouldn’t ask that much of a show like them but I’d hope if Camilo talks to one of them or both about their relationship. Like give them advice that could help them get back together
I wish, I wish, but I don’t know if his advice would help? It’s so many other, external things, although, yes, yes, it is Juls’s state of mind being the main thing keeping them apart, but I don’t know how he could handle that? Not in one quick session.
And another anon:
There’s have to be a time jump. But most of the telenovelas had the time jump even at the end of the last episode. They put it in there for showing how are the characters in the future.
Right, right, but an epilogue is a pretty far cry from a mid-plot time jump. It really does, to me, seem like it’s going to be the former.
someone pointed out that the picture val was looking at this episode was the same as before only with a different filter. so now i’m imagining her after the breakup putting black and white filters on all their pictures together like the dramatic pining gay she is.
Lmao, that’s maybe exactly what she did do??
Got a new phone and immediately downloaded these pics to gayngst over. Man, for all our theories and wild expectations, we have nothing on how effectively and efficiently dramatic Val is.
I saw pictures of the moment Juls answer Vals call and if you zoom in you can see she has been drawing clothes. Idk that got to me like she is there trying her thing
Oh, wow, the quality I have is crap, I didn’t even see that. That really is actually pretty lovely, like she doesn’t stop existing as a character when off screen, and gosh, I don’t want to make EVERYTHING about the ship, but I can’t help but remember that Val was the one who first encouraged her and did so much to help her believe in herself and now, no matter what, that part of Val’s always going to be with her.
I’m so sorry to add to ur asks, but can I ask how Camilo is tied to the storyline/juliantina? I remember he was telling Jacobo there’s nothing wrong with homosexuality but I don’t think I’ve seen him outside of that? Is he another dad haha… dad no.3
Oh, don’t worry about the asks, that’s not on you guys. It’s just my bad time management. I think I’m getting better at it, though. 😮
Camilo is Leon’s friend. That’s significant, he didn’t meet Jacobo and befriend him, he knew Leon before and is a close family friend who the Carvajal kids treat like an uncle. When Jacobo first arrived after the bodyswitch, he told Camilo everything. It helped that Camilo already believed in all this bodyswitching stuff before, that, I dunno, souls can travel around and whatever, and even wrote a book on it.
After Val got really drunk in her grief over Leon’s death and fell into a pool and it was a bit of a wake up call for the other family members to sit down with her, Guille told her that the book had helped him deal with his grief so Val read it and went to Camilo and talked it over with him. She actually asked him if it was possible her father was alive or if there was ever a chance she’d see him again. Since at that point, Jacobo was already embedded in their household and was the one who had driven her over to Camilo’s, he was like, oh, for sure.
So, keeping that all in mind, she’s already open to this theory, right, plus, she knows from what Juls has said before that her father was executed and then seemed to wake up at the morgue and think he was somebody else. So combining that with the fact that Jacobo’s a nice guy (to her) and that Chino is terrible (going by what Juls has said), obviously our little detective is putting some things together.
I love that THAT is how close Val sits to Juls when she is still upset with Juls. Like, lol. Zero self-control on our girl.
I’m so mad at her. *zooms in on pic on phone* How could somebody so beautiful lie to me. *zooms in more* So, so beautiful. *gently guides her down by the hand* Tell me everything, you beautiful heartbreaker. *sits down on top of her at Camilo’s office, smiling and showing more energy than she has at any point since the kidnapping* Tell us the truth, Camilo, my platonic friend and I want to know the truth!